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House of Commons Votes and Proceedings
Thursday 9th May 2002

The House met at half-past Eleven o'clock.

PRAYERS.

1    Private Bills [Lords] (Petitions for Additional Provision) (Standing Orders not complied with),-The Speaker laid upon the Table a Report from one of the Examiners of Petitions for Private Bills, That, in the case of the following Bills, originating in the Lords, the Standing Orders have not been complied with in respect of Petitions for Additional Provision:

    London Local Authorities Bill [Lords]

    London Local Authorities and Transport for London Bill [Lords].

    Petitions for Additional Provision in the Report referred to the Standing Orders Committee.

2    London Development Agency Bill,-The Order of the day being read, for the Second Reading of the London Development Agency Bill;

    Ordered, That the Bill be read a second time on Thursday 16th May.

3    European Standing Committee B,-Mr Bill O'Brien reported from European Standing Committee B the following Resolution:

    That the Committee takes note of European Union Document No. 6980/02, draft Framework Decision on the execution in the European Union of orders freezing property or evidence; shares the Government's view that the general thrust of the measure will improve the speed and effectiveness with which assets and evidence can be secured in cases of serious crime, acknowledges the amendments which have been included, largely at the Government's instigation to ensure that personal rights and freedoms are protected as far as is possible; and supports the Government's position on this measure.

    Report, together with Resolution, to lie upon the Table.

4    Nationality, Immigration and Asylum Bill (Programme) (No. 2),-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Order [28th June], That the Order of 24th April (Nationality, Immigration and Asylum Bill (Programme)) be amended by the substitution in paragraph (3) (proceedings in Standing Committee) of the words 'Tuesday 21st May' for the words 'Thursday 16th May'-(Mr Fraser Kemp):-It was agreed to.

5    Finance Bill (Clauses Nos. 4, 19, 23, 26 to 29, 87 to 92, 131 and 134 and Schedules Nos. 1, 5 and 38),-The House, according to Order, again resolved itself into a Committee on the Finance Bill (Clauses Nos. 4, 19, 23, 26 to 29, 87 to 92, 131 and 134 and Schedules Nos. 1, 5 and 38).

(In the Committee)

    Clause No. 89 (Controlled foreign companies and treaty non-resident companies).

    Amendment (No. 34) proposed, in page 63, line 33, at the end, to add the words-

      '(iii) has otherwise been resident outside the United Kingdom and not resident in the United Kingdom for a period of three years.'.-(Mr Howard Flight.)

    Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:-Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

    Clause agreed to.

    Clause No. 90 (Supplementary charge in respect of ring fence trades).

    Amendment (No. 2) proposed, in page 63, line 38, to leave out the words '17th April 2002' and insert the words '1st April 2003'.-(Mr Howard Flight.)

    Question put, That the Amendment be made.

    The Committee divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Stephen O'Brien, Mr Laurence Robertson: 163.

      Tellers for the Noes, Mr Tony McNulty, Mr John Heppell: 281.

    Another Amendment (No. 29) proposed, in page 64, line 2, to leave out from the word 'which' to the word 'would' in line 3.-(Malcolm Bruce.)

    Question put, That the Amendment be made.

    The Committee divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Adrian Sanders, Annette Brooke: 160.

      Tellers for the Noes, Mr Tony McNulty, Mr John Heppell: 276.

    Another Amendment (No. 33) proposed, in page 65, line 17, at the end, to add the words-

      '(11) This section shall come into force on such day as the Treasury may by order made by statutory instrument appoint, but no such order shall be made until an economic impact assessment has been made of the effect of the changes on activity and employment in the oil industry in the North Sea.'.-(Mr Alex Salmond.)

    Question put, That the Amendment be made.

    The Committee divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Simon Thomas, Pete Wishart: 155.

      Tellers for the Noes, Mr Tony McNulty, Mr John Heppell: 272.

    The Chairman, being of the opinion that the principle of the Clause and any matters arising thereon had been adequately discussed in the course of debate on the Amendments proposed thereto, put forthwith the Question, pursuant to Standing Order No. 68 (Debate on clause or schedule standing part), That the Clause stand part of the Bill.

    The Committee divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Tony McNulty, Mr John Heppell: 265.

      Tellers for the Noes, Mr Stephen O'Brien, Mr Laurence Robertson: 154.

    Clauses Nos. 91, 92 and 131 agreed to.

    Schedule No. 38 (Recovery of taxes etc due in other member States).

    Amendment (No. 23) proposed, in page 475, line 11, after the word 'his', to insert the word 'alleged'.-(Mr Howard Flight.)

    Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:-Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

    Another Amendment (No. 24) proposed, in page 475, line 28, to leave out paragraph 6.-(Mr Howard Flight.)

    Question put, That the Amendment be made.

    The Committee divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Stephen O'Brien, Mr Laurence Robertson: 85.

      Tellers for the Noes, Dan Norris, Mr Nick Ainger: 249.

    Schedule agreed to.

    Clause No. 134 (Lorry road-user charge).

    Amendment (No. 32) proposed, in page 106, line 35, at the end, to insert the words 'provided that the charge shall be payable in respect of every lorry using a public road in the United Kingdom irrespective of the country in which such lorry is registered.'.-(Mr Christopher Chope.)

    Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:-Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.

    Clause agreed to.

    Bill to be reported, without Amendment.


    The Deputy Speaker resumed the Chair; and Mr Phil Woolas reported, That the Committee had gone through the Bill (Clauses Nos. 4, 19, 23, 26 to 29, 87 to 92, 131 and 134 and Schedules Nos. 1, 5 and 38), and had directed him to report the same, without Amendment.

    Ordered, That the Bill (Clauses Nos. 4, 19, 23, 26 to 29, 87 to 92, 131 and 134 and Schedules Nos. 1, 5 and 38) do lie upon the Table.

6    Environmental Protection,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Offshore Chemicals Regulations 2002, which were laid before this House on 26th March, be approved-(Mr Phil Woolas):-It was agreed to.

7    Social Security,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Social Security and Child Support (Decisions and Appeals) (Miscellaneous Amendments) Regulations 2002, which were laid before this House on 10th April, be approved-(Mr Phil Woolas):-It was agreed to.

8    Social Security (Northern Ireland),-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Tax Credits (Decisions and Appeals) (Northern Ireland) (Amendment) Regulations 2002, which were laid before this House on 10th April, be approved-(Mr Phil Woolas):-It was agreed to.

9    Dentists,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Dental Auxiliaries (Amendment) Regulations 2002, which were laid before this House on 25th April, be approved-(Mr Phil Woolas):-It was agreed to.

10    Dentists,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Dentists Act 1984 (Dental Auxiliaries) Order 2002, which was laid before this House on 30th April, be approved-(Mr Phil Woolas):-It was agreed to.

11    Railways,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 119 (European Standing Committees), That this House takes note of European Union documents Nos. 5721/02, Commission Communication 'Towards an integrated European railway area', No. 5744/02, draft Directive on the safety of the Community's railways, No. 5723/01 Draft Directive amending Council Directive 96/48/EC and Directive 2001/16/EC on the interoperability of the trans-European rail system, No. 5724/02, draft Regulation establishing a European Railway Agency, No. 5726/02, Recommendation for a Council Decision authorising the Commission to negotiate the conditions for Community accession to the Convention concerning International Carriage by Rail (COTIF), and No. 5727/02, draft Directive amending Council Directive 91/440/EEC on the development of the Community's railways; and endorses the Government's approach to negotiations on these proposals in the Council-(Mr Phil Woolas):-It was agreed to.

12    Statutory Instruments (Joint Committee),-Ordered, That Mr Harold Best and Mr Ivan Henderson be discharged from the Select Committee appointed to join with a Committee of the Lords as the Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments and Huw Irranca-Davies and Chris Mole be added to the Committee.-(Mr Phil Woolas.)

13    Travel by Honourable Members to National Parliaments and European Union Institutions,-Resolved, That the Resolution of 26th May 1999 relating to travel by honourable Members to national parliaments and European Union institutions be rescinded and the following provision be made in its place:

    (1) That, in the opinion of this House, provision should be made as from 1st April 2002 for reimbursing honourable Members in respect of the cost of travelling on parliamentary duties between the United Kingdom and any European Union institution in Brussels, Luxembourg or Strasbourg and to the national parliament of an EU state or a candidate country and any additional expenses necessarily incurred in such travelling, subject to the conditions that

      (a) the amount payable to an honourable Member in any year, beginning with 1st April, shall not exceed the aggregate of the cost of three return business class airfares for the journey on the assumption that the journey begins and ends at a London airport and that the destination is any of the three cities mentioned above or the location of the national parliament of an EU state or a candidate country; and

      (b) subsistence for each journey made under this Resolution shall be restricted to two nights at the Civil Service class A standard subsistence rate for the time being in operation;

      (c) an honourable Member must submit in advance to the Fees Office, Department of Finance and Administration a statement of the visit's purpose, location and duration and the persons or organisations to be met; and

      (d) expenditure in pursuance of this Resolution within financial year 2002-03 shall not exceed the total currently planned for expenditure on travel by honourable Members to European Union institutions or European national parliaments within that year.

    (2) Expenditure under this Budget should form part of the General Services Budget and, if so advised by the Speaker's Advisory Panel, the Speaker and the Leader of the House shall have the power to vary the provisions of this Resolution in future financial years.-(Mr Phil Woolas.)

14    Public Petitions,-A Public Petition from residents of Knutsford and the surrounding areas against the closure of Knutsford Crown Court was presented and read; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed.

15    Adjournment,-Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.-(Mr Phil Woolas.)

    And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till eleven minutes to Nine o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.

[Adjourned at 8.49 p.m.

Michael J. Martin
Speaker


Mr Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Nine o'clock.


APPENDIX I

Papers presented or laid upon the Table:

Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:

1    Extradition,-Draft European Union Extradition (Amendment) Regulations 2002 [by Act], with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Mr Secretary Blunkett].

2    Fees and Charges,-Draft Consular Fees Act 1980 (Fees) Order 2002 [by Act], with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Command] [Mr Secretary Straw].

3    Flags,-Draft Flags Regulations (Northern Ireland) (Amendment) 2002, with a statement by the Speaker of the Northern Ireland Assembly [by Statutory Instrument] [Mr Secretary Reid].

Papers subject to Negative Resolution:

4    Customs and Excise,-Beer and Excise Warehousing (Amendment) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1265), dated 7th May 2002 [by Act] [Mr Paul Boateng].

5    Health and Safety,-Pressure Equipment (Amendment) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1267), dated 6th May 2002 [by Act] [Ms Secretary Hewitt].

6    Immigration,-Immigration (Swiss Free Movement of Persons) (No. 3) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1241), dated 1st May 2002 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Blunkett].

7    Plant Health,-The Plant Health (Phytophthora ramorum) (England) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1299), dated 9th May 2002 [by Act] [Secretary Margaret Beckett].

8    Value Added Tax,-Value Added Tax (Special Provisions) (Amendment) Order 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 1280), dated 8th May 2002 [by Act] [Mr Paul Boateng].

Other Papers:

9    Appropriations in Aid,-Treasury Minute, dated 9th May 2002, directing the application of certain amounts as appropriations in aid of the Estimates for the year ending 31st March 2003 [by Act] [Mr Andrew Smith].

10    Fair Trading,-Report of the Director General of Fair Trading for 2001 [by Act]; to be printed [No. 773] [Ms Secretary Hewitt].

11    Public Accounts,-Treasury Minute on the Eleventh Report from the Committee of Public Accounts, Session 2001-02 [by Command] [Cm. 5481] [Mr Paul Boateng].

12    Regional Government,-Paper, entitled Your Region, Your Choice; Revitalising the English Regions [by Command] [Cm. 5511] [Mr Secretary Prescott].

13    Supply Estimates, 2002-03,-(1) Main Supply Estimates and Summary Request for Supply for Central Government for 2002-03 [by Command]; to be printed [No. 795] [Mr Andrew Smith], and

    (2) Main Supply Estimates for 2002-03 for-

      (a) the Electoral Commission [by Command]; to be printed [No. 798] [The Speaker], and

      (b) House of Commons Administration [by Command]; to be printed [No. 796] [The Speaker], and

      (c) the National Audit Office [by Command]; to be printed [No. 797] [Mr Alan Williams].

APPENDIX II

Standing Committees

1    Finance Bill (except Clauses Nos. 4, 19, 23, 26 to 29, 87 to 92, 131 and 134 and Schedules Nos. 1, 5 and 38),-The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr David Lidington from Standing Committee F (nominated in respect of the Bill); and nominated in substitution Chris Grayling.

2    Occupational Pensions Schemes (Minimum Funding Requirements and Miscellaneous Amendments) Regulations 2002 (S.I., 2002, No. 380),-The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Ronnie Campbell, Mr George Galloway, Mr Dai Havard, Joyce Quin and Angela Smith from the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Regulations); and nominated in substitution Kevin Brennan, Patrick Hall, Bridget Prentice, Mr Sin Simon and Mr Phil Woolas.

3    Draft Health Service (Control of Patient Information) Regulations 2002,-The Speaker has appointed Miss Ann Widdecombe Chairman of the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation in respect of the draft Regulations.

4    Draft Landfill (England and Wales) Regulations 2002,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Mrs Claire Curtis-Thomas from the Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Regulations); and nominated in substitution Barbara Follett.

European Standing Committees

5    The Speaker has appointed Mr David Taylor Chairman of European Standing Committee A in respect of European Union Documents Nos. 11596/00 and 12488/01 on rabies relating to the Pet Travel Scheme.

6    European Standing Committee A,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Jim Dobbin from European Standing Committee A; and nominated in substitution Sandra Osborne.

7    The Speaker has appointed Mr Peter Atkinson Chairman of European Standing Committee C in respect of European Union Document No. 15194/01 on packaging and packaging waste.

8    European Standing Committee C,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Geraldine Smith from European Standing Committee C; and nominated in substitution Jim Dobbin.

APPENDIX III

Reports from Select Committees

    1    Catering,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Catering Committee on 8th May [House of Commons Refreshment Facilities]; to be printed [No. 832-i] [Mr Dennis Turner].

    2    Home Affairs,-Third Report from the Home Affairs Committee [The Government's Drugs Policy: Is it Working?] with the Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 318] [Mr Chris Mullin].

    3    Public Administration,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Select Committee on Public Administration [Public Appointments and Patronage]; to be printed [No. 686-vi] [Tony Wright].

[W.H., No. 82]

Minutes of Proceedings of the Sitting in Westminster Hall

[pursuant to the Order of 20th November 2000]

The sitting commenced at half-past Two o'clock.

    Adjournment (End of Life Vehicles Directive-First Report from the Trade and Industry Committee, Session 2001-02, and the Government's response thereto),-Resolved, That the sitting be now adjourned.-(Mr John Heppell.)

    And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till Tuesday 14th May.

[Adjourned at 5.16 p.m.

Sir Alan Haselhurst

Deputy Speaker



 
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