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House of Commons Votes and Proceedings
Thursday 29th November 2001

The House met at half-past Eleven o'clock.


1    Land Registration Bill [Lords],-Mr Mike Hancock reported from the Second Reading Committee on the Land Registration Bill [Lords], That it had come to the following Resolution, which it had directed him to report to the House: That the Committee recommends that the Land Registration Bill [Lords] ought to be read a second time.

    Report to lie upon the Table.

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to be printed [No. 414].

2    Human Reproductive Cloning Bill [Lords] (Allocation of Time),-A Motion was made, and the Question being put,That the following provisions shall apply to the proceedings on the Human Reproductive Cloning Bill [Lords]-


    1. Proceedings on Second Reading, in Committee, on consideration and on Third Reading shall be completed at today's sitting and shall be brought to a conclusion, if not previously concluded, at Seven o'clock.

Questions to be put

    2. When the Bill has been read a second time-

      (a) it shall, notwithstanding Standing Order No. 63 (Committal of bills), stand committed to a Committee of the whole House without any Question being put;

      (b) the Speaker shall leave the Chair whether or not notice of an Instruction has been given.

    3. On the conclusion of proceedings in Committee the Chairman shall report the Bill to the House without putting any Question and, if the Bill is reported with Amendments, the House shall proceed to consider the Bill as amended without any Question being put.

    4. For the purpose of bringing any proceedings to a conclusion in accordance with paragraph 1 the Speaker or Chairman shall forthwith put the following Questions (but no others)-

      (a) any Question already proposed from the Chair;

      (b) any Question necessary to bring to a decision a Question so proposed;

      (c) the Question on any Amendment moved or Motion made by a Minister of the Crown;

      (d) any other Question necessary for the disposal of the business to be concluded.

    5. On a Motion so made for a new Clause or a new Schedule, the Chairman or Speaker shall put only the Question that the Clause or Schedule be added to the Bill.


    6. Standing Order No. 15(1) (Exempted business) shall apply to proceedings on the Bill at today's sitting.

    7. The proceedings on any Motion made by a Minister of the Crown for varying or supplementing the provisions of this Order shall, if not previously concluded, be brought to a conclusion one hour after commencement, and Standing Order No. 15(1) shall apply to those proceedings.

    8. Standing Order No. 82 (Business Committee) shall not apply in relation to proceedings on the Bill.

    9. No Motion shall be made to alter the order in which any proceedings on the Bill are taken.

    10. No dilatory Motion shall be made in relation to the Bill except by a Minister of the Crown.

    11. No debate shall be permitted on any Motion to recommit the Bill (whether as a whole or otherwise) and the Speaker shall put forthwith any Question necessary to dispose of the Motion, including the Question on any Amendment moved to the Question.

    12. If at today's sitting a Motion for the adjournment of the House under Standing Order No. 24 (Adjournment on specific and important matter that should have urgent consideration) stands over to Four o'clock and proceedings on the Bill have begun before that time, the Motion for the adjournment shall stand over until the conclusion of proceedings on the Bill.

    13. If the House is adjourned at today's sitting, or the sitting is suspended, before the conclusion of proceedings on the Bill, no notice shall be required of a Motion made at the next sitting by a Minister of the Crown for varying or supplementing the provisions of this Order-(Ms Hazel Blears);

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Ivor Caplin, Mr Tony McNulty: 259.

      Tellers for the Noes, Mr Charles Hendry, Mr Laurence Robertson: 171.

    So the Question was agreed to.

3    Human Reproductive Cloning Bill [Lords],-The Order of the day being read, for the Second Reading of the Human Reproductive Cloning Bill [Lords];

    And a Motion being made, and the Question being proposed, That the Bill be now read a second time;

    An Amendment was proposed to the Question, to leave out from the word 'That' to the end of the Question and add the words 'this House declines to give a Second Reading to the Human Reproductive Cloning Bill because it does not address the subject of therapeutic cloning; it does not prevent the creation of embryos by cell nuclear replacement; it does not define terms central to the Bill, such as "fertilisation" and "embryo"; and it fails to address the wider issues raised by the prospect of the creation of a cloned human being', instead thereof.-(Mr Edward Leigh.)

    And the Question being proposed, That the Amendment be made;

    And it being Seven o'clock, the Deputy Speaker put the Question already proposed from the Chair, pursuant to Order [this day].

    The Question being put, That the Amendment be made;

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Paul Goodman, Mr Paul Marsden: 49.

      Tellers for the Noes, Mr Tony McNulty, Mr John Heppell: 288.

    So the Question was negatived.

    And the Main Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 62 (Amendment on second or third reading):-It was agreed to.

    The Bill was accordingly read a second time.

    The House, pursuant to Order [this day], immediately resolved itself into a Committee.

(In the Committee)

    It being after Seven o'clock, the Chairman put the Questions necessary for the disposal of the business to be concluded.

    Clauses Nos. 1 and 2 agreed to.

    Whereupon the Chairman left the Chair to report the Bill to the House.


    The Deputy Speaker resumed the Chair, and Mr Graham Stringer reported, That the Committee had gone through the Bill, and made no Amendment thereunto.

    The Deputy Speaker then put the remaining Question necessary for the disposal of the business to be concluded at Seven o'clock.

    The Bill was read the third time and passed, without Amendment.

4    Public Petitions,-A Public Petition from residents of Carshalton and Wallington and others in favour of the Home Energy Conservation Bill was presented; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed.

5    Adjournment,-Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.-(Mr Graham Stringer.)

    And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till a quarter to Eight o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.

[Adjourned at 7.45 p.m.

Michael J. Martin

Mr Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Nine o'clock.


Papers presented or laid upon the Table:

Papers subject to Negative Resolution:

1    Education,-Education (School Attendance Targets) (England) (Amendment) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 3785), dated 27th November 2001 [by Act] [Secretary Estelle Morris].

2    Health and Safety,-Equipment and Protective Systems Intended for Use in Potentially Explosive Atmospheres (Amendment) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 3766), dated 22nd November 2001 [by Act] [Ms Secretary Hewitt].

3    Taxes,-Stamp Duty (Disadvantaged Areas) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 3747), dated 29th November 2001 [by Act] [Mr Paul Boateng].

Other Papers:

4    Courts and Legal Services,-Report and Accounts of the Court Service for 2000-01, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 356] [Mr Michael Wills].

5    Defence,-Ministry of Defence Minute, dated 29th November 2001, concerning the gifting of surplus Challenger 2 ammunition to the Government of Oman [by Command] [Mr Secretary Hoon].

6    Freedom of Information,-Report, under section 87(5) of the Freedom of Information Act 2000, on proposals for bringing fully into force those provisions of the Act which are not yet fully in force [by Act]; to be printed [No. 367] [Mr Michael Wills].

7    Supply Estimates, 2002-03,-Estimates for which a Vote on Account is required for 2002-03 for-

    (1) Central Government [by Command]; to be printed [No. 392] [Mr Andrew Smith];

    (2) the Electoral Commission [by Command]; to be printed [No. 395] [The Speaker]; and

    (3) the House of Commons [by Command]; to be printed [No. 393] [The Speaker].

8    Supply Estimates, 2001-02,-(1) Winter Supplementary Estimates for 2001-02 for-

      (a) British Trade International [by Command] [Cm. 5299] [Ms Secretary Hewitt];

      (b) the Cabinet Office [by Command] [Cm. 5287] [Mr Secretary Prescott];

      (c) the Charity Commission [by Command] [Cm. 5285] [Mr Secretary Blunkett];

      (d) the Department for Culture, Media and Sport [by Command] [Cm. 5308] [Secretary Tessa Jowell];

      (e) the Department for Education and Skills [by Command] [Cm. 5335] [Secretary Estelle Morris];

      (f) the Department for the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs [by Command] [Cm. 5273] [Secretary Margaret Beckett];

      (g) the Department of Health [by Command] [Cm. 5331] [Mr Secretary Milburn];

      (h) the Department of Trade and Industry [by Command] [Cm. 5282] [Ms Secretary Hewitt];

      (i) the Department for Transport, Local Government and the Regions [by Command] [Cm. 5294] [Mr Secretary Byers];

      (j) the Department for Work and Pensions [by Command] [Cm. 5271] [Mr Secretary Darling];

      (k) the Export Credits Guarantee Department [by Command] [Cm. 5272] [Ms Secretary Hewitt];

      (l) the Food Standards Agency [by Command] [Cm. 5306] [Mr Secretary Milburn];

      (m) HM Customs and Excise [by Command] [Cm. 5292] [Mr Paul Boateng];

      (n) HM Treasury [by Command] [Cm. 5323] [Ruth Kelly];

      (o) the Home Office [by Command] [Cm. 5314] [Mr Secretary Blunkett];

      (p) the House of Commons-Members' Salaries [by Command] [Cm. 5325] [Mr Robin Cook];

      (q) the House of Lords [by Command] [Cm. 5320] [Mr Andrew Smith];

      (r) Inland Revenue [by Command] [Cm. 5268] [Dawn Primarolo];

      (s) the Intervention Board-Executive Agency [by Command] [Cm. 5307] [Secretary Margaret Beckett];

      (t) the Ministry of Defence [by Command] [Cm. 5303] [Mr Secretary Hoon];

      (u) the Office of Fair Trading [by Command] [Cm. 5317] [Ms Secretary Hewitt];

      (v) the Office of Gas and Electricity Markets [by Command] [Cm. 5324] [Ms Secretary Hewitt];

      (w) the Office for National Statistics [by Command] [Cm. 5330] [Ruth Kelly];

      (x) the Office of Telecommunications [by Command] [Cm. 5329] [Ms Secretary Hewitt];

      (y) the Security and Intelligence Agencies [by Command] [Cm. 5333] [The Prime Minister]; and

      (z) the Wales Office (Office of the Secretary of State for Wales) [by Command] [Cm. 5336] [Mr Secretary Murphy]; and

    (2) corrections to the Main Estimates for 2001-02, and Winter Supplementary Estimates for 2001-02 for the Lord Chancellor's Departments [by Command] [Cm. 5337] [Mr Michael Wills].


Standing Committees

1    Employment Bill,-The Speaker has appointed Mr Joe Benton, Mr David Amess and Derek Conway Chairmen of Standing Committee F in respect of the Bill.

2    Draft Carriage by Air Acts (Implementation of the Montreal Convention 1999) Order 2001 and the draft Carriage by Air Acts (Application of Provisions) Order 2001,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown from the Seventh Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Orders); and nominated in substitution Mr Eric Pickles.

European Standing Committees

3    The Speaker has appointed Mr Win Griffiths Chairman of European Standing Committee B in respect of European Union Document No. 13425/01, Draft Council Framework Decision on the European Arrest Warrant and the Surrender Procedures between the Member States.


Reports from Select Committees

    1    Health,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Health Committee [The Role of the Private Sector in the NHS]; to be printed [No. 308-vi] [Mr David Hinchliffe].

    2    Public Administration,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Select Committee on Public Administration [Public Service Reform]; to be printed [No. 263-v] [Tony Wright].

    3    Welsh Affairs,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Welsh Affairs Committee [Transport in Wales]; to be printed [No. 378-iii] [Mr Martyn Jones].

[W.H., No. 31]

Minutes of Proceedings of the Sitting in Westminster Hall

[pursuant to the Order of 20th November 2000]

The sitting commenced at half-past Two o'clock.

    Adjournment (Public Participation: Issues and Innovations-Sixth Report from the Select Committee on Public Administration, Session 2000-01, House of Commons Paper No. 373),-Resolved, That the sitting be now adjourned.-(Mr Fraser Kemp.)

    And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till Tuesday 4th December.

[Adjourned at 5.35 p.m.

Sir Alan Haselhurst

Deputy Speaker


    In the Votes and Proceedings of Wednesday 28th November, in Appendix I, item 2 (Regulatory Reform), which appeared under the heading Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution, should have appeared under the heading Other Papers as follows:-

    Regulatory Reform,-Proposal under the Regulatory Reform Act 2001 for a Regulatory Reform (Golden Jubilee Licensing) Order 2002, together with a statement by the Department for Culture, Media and Sport [by Act] [Secretary Tessa Jowell].

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