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House of Commons Votes and Proceedings
Tuesday 6th November 2001

The House met at half-past Two o'clock.

PRAYERS.

1    Deregulation and Regulatory Reform Committee,-Mr Peter Pike reported from the Deregulation and Regulatory Reform Committee the following Resolution:

    That the proposal for the Regulatory Reform (Special Occasions Licensing) Order 2001, which was laid before this House on 28th June, should be amended before a draft Order is laid before the House.

2    Ninth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,-Derek Conway reported from the Ninth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the draft European Communities (Definition of Treaties) (Partnership Agreement between the Members of the African, Caribbean and Pacific Group of States and the European Community and its Member States (The Cotonou Agreement)) Order 2001.

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

3    Movement of Farm Animals,-Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to limit journey times in respect of the transport of animals to slaughter; to promote the establishment of a network of local slaughterhouses; to limit the frequency with which animals may be brought to market in any twenty-day period; and for connected purposes: And that David Taylor, Mr Adrian Bailey, Colin Burgon, Mr David Drew, Paul Flynn, Judy Mallaber, Dr Nick Palmer, Mr Gordon Prentice, Mr Gwyn Prosser, Bob Russell, Dr Howard Stoate and Mr Mark Todd do prepare and bring it in.

4    Movement of Farm Animals Bill,-David Taylor accordingly presented a Bill to limit journey times in respect of the transport of animals to slaughter; to promote the establishment of a network of local slaughterhouses; to limit the frequency with which animals may be brought to market in any twenty-day period; and for connected purposes: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Friday 19th July and to be printed [Bill 43].

5    Opposition Day [4th allotted day],-It being an allotted day at the disposal of the Leader of the Opposition in pursuance of Standing Order No. 14 (Arrangement of public business), the House proceeded to consider Opposition business.

    The Government's Education and Lifelong Learning Policies,-A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House notes the mounting evidence of crisis throughout education; deplores the Government's conduct in first ignoring evidence of fraud involving Individual Learning Accounts and subsequently stopping ILAs without notice; regrets the growth of paperwork that is driving good teachers out of schools; further regrets the failure of the Government to allow parents a real choice of schools for their children in many parts of the country; condemns the Government's system of student support, which has discouraged applicants from poorer families, and urges the Government to institute a proper public consultation on its replacement; congratulates those teachers and students who are achieving good results despite the Government's interference; and believes that standards will not be improved if the Government maintains its current policy of constant interference in the day-to-day running of education-(Mr Damian Green);

    An Amendment was proposed to the Question, in line 2, to leave out from the word 'House' to the end of the Question and add the words 'notes that by 1997 the education system had suffered from 18 years of neglect, schools funding had been cut, nearly half of 11 years olds were failing to reach expected levels in maths and English, teacher numbers had fallen by 30,000, nearly half a million infants were in large classes and roughly seven million adults suffered from inadequate basic skills; welcomes the substantial progress made since then, including: education spending rising as a share of GDP to 5 per cent., record results at Key Stage 2, 11,000 more teachers in schools and infant and primary class sizes reduced; further notes that recruitment to initial teacher training rose by 5 per cent. last year, the second year's rise after eight years of decline; supports the Government's plans for continued investment in and reform of education, and its central goals of transforming secondary education to ensure higher standards for all, giving more people the chance to learn; further supports the Government's pledge to expand higher education so that 50 per cent. of 18 to 30 year olds can benefit from higher education by 2010; welcomes the announcement of a review of the student support system in the light of this recent pledge; recognises the success of Individual Learning Accounts, while understanding the necessary public interest case for suspending them; and believes that the Government's education policies form a coherent and radical programme that will deliver its ambitious targets and move the education system away from the neglect and waste of individuals' talents between 1979 and 1997', instead thereof.-(Secretary Estelle Morris.)

    And the Question being proposed, That the original words stand part of the Question;

    David Maclean rose in his place and claimed to move, That the Question be now put.

    And the Question being put, That the Question be now put:-It was agreed to.

    And the Question being accordingly put;

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mrs Cheryl Gillan, Dr Julian Lewis: 186.

      Tellers for the Noes, Mrs Anne McGuire, Mr Tony McNulty: 316.

    So the Question was negatived.

    And the Question, That the proposed words be there added, being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 31 (Questions on amendments);

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mrs Anne McGuire, Mr Tony McNulty: 308.

      Tellers for the Noes, Mrs Cheryl Gillan, Dr Julian Lewis: 190.

    So the Question was agreed to.

    The Deputy Speaker forthwith declared the Main Question, as amended, to be agreed to.

    Resolved, That this House notes that by 1997 the education system had suffered from 18 years of neglect, schools funding had been cut, nearly half of 11 years olds were failing to reach expected levels in maths and English, teacher numbers had fallen by 30,000, nearly half a million infants were in large classes and roughly seven million adults suffered from inadequate basic skills; welcomes the substantial progress made since then, including: education spending rising as a share of GDP to 5 per cent., record results at Key Stage 2, 11,000 more teachers in schools and infant and primary class sizes reduced; further notes that recruitment to initial teacher training rose by 5 per cent. last year, the second year's rise after eight years of decline; supports the Government's plans for continued investment in and reform of education, and its central goals of transforming secondary education to ensure higher standards for all, giving more people the chance to learn; further supports the Government's pledge to expand higher education so that 50 per cent. of 18 to 30 year olds can benefit from higher education by 2010; welcomes the announcement of a review of the student support system in the light of this recent pledge; recognises the success of Individual Learning Accounts, while understanding the necessary public interest case for suspending them; and believes that the Government's education policies form a coherent and radical programme that will deliver its ambitious targets and move the education system away from the neglect and waste of individuals' talents between 1979 and 1997.

6    International Immunities and Privileges,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft European Communities (Privileges of the European School) Order 2001, which was laid before this House on 15th October, be approved-(Mr Gerry Sutcliffe):-It was agreed to.

7    International Immunities and Privileges,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft European Communities (Definition of Treaties) (European School) Order 2001, which was laid before this House on 15th October, be approved-(Mr Gerry Sutcliffe):-It was agreed to.

8    International Immunities and Privileges,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft European Communities (Immunities and Privileges of the North Atlantic Salmon Conservation Organization) Order 2001, which was laid before this House on 15th October, be approved-(Mr Gerry Sutcliffe):-It was agreed to.

9    International Immunities and Privileges,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft European Communities (Definition of Treaties) (North Atlantic Salmon Conservation Organization) Order 2001, which was laid before this House on 15th October, be approved-(Mr Gerry Sutcliffe):-It was agreed to.

10    International Immunities and Privileges,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (Immunities and Privileges) Order 2001, which was laid before this House on 17th October, be approved-(Mr Gerry Sutcliffe):-It was agreed to.

11    Northern Ireland,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Northern Ireland Act 1998 (Amendment of Enactment) Order 2001, which was laid before this House on 16th October, be approved-(Mr Gerry Sutcliffe):-It was agreed to.

12    Prisons,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the Northern Ireland (Sentences) Act 1998 (Specified Organizations) Order 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 3411), dated 12th October 2001, a copy of which was laid before this House on 17th October, be approved-(Mr Gerry Sutcliffe):-It was agreed to.

13    Northern Ireland,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the Northern Ireland Act 2000 (Suspension of Devolved Government) Order 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 2884), dated 10th August 2001, a copy of which was laid before this House on 13th August, be approved-(Mr Gerry Sutcliffe):-It was agreed to.

14    Northern Ireland,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the Northern Ireland Act 2000 (Restoration of Devolved Government) Order 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 2895), dated 11th August 2001, a copy of which was laid before this House on 13th August, be approved-(Mr Gerry Sutcliffe):-It was agreed to.

15    Northern Ireland,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the Northern Ireland Act 2000 (Suspension of Devolved Government) (No. 2) Order 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 3230), dated 21st September 2001, a copy of which was laid before this House on 26th September, be approved-(Mr Gerry Sutcliffe):-It was agreed to.

16    Northern Ireland,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the Northern Ireland Act 2000 (Restoration of Devolved Government) (No. 2) Order 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 3231), dated 22nd September 2001, a copy of which was laid before this House on 26th September, be approved-(Mr Gerry Sutcliffe):-It was agreed to.

17    Sea Fisheries,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the Fishing Vessels (Decommissioning) Scheme 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 3390), dated 10th October 2001, a copy of which was laid before this House on 12th October, be approved-(Mr Gerry Sutcliffe):-It was agreed to.

18    Adjournment,-Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.-(Mr Gerry Sutcliffe.)

    And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till eight minutes to Eleven o'clock, adjourned till to-morrow.

[Adjourned at 10.52 p.m.

Michael J. Martin
Speaker


Mr Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Two o'clock.


APPENDIX I

Papers presented or laid upon the Table:

Papers subject to Negative Resolution:

1    Financial Services and Markets,-Financial Services and Markets Act 2000 (Transitional Provisions) (Partly Completed Procedures) Order 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 3592), dated 6th November 2001 [by Act] [Ruth Kelly].

2    Insolvency,-Bankruptcy (Financial Services and Markets Act 2000) (Scotland) Rules 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 3591), dated 5th November 2001 [by Act] [Ruth Kelly].

3    Local Government,-(1) Local Authorities (Model Code of Conduct) (England) Order 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 3575),

    (2) National Park and Broads Authorities (Model Code of Conduct) (England) Order 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 3577),

    (3) Parish Councils (Model Code of Conduct) Order 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 3576), and

    (4) Police Authorities (Model Code of Conduct) Order 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 3578),

    dated 5th November 2001 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Byers].

APPENDIX II

Standing Committees

    Proceeds of Crime Bill,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Gareth Thomas from Standing Committee B (nominated in respect of the Bill); and nominated in substitution Mr Wayne David.

APPENDIX III

Reports from Select Committees

    1    Deregulation and Regulatory Reform,-First Report from the Deregulation and Regulatory Reform Committee [Proposal for the Regulatory Reform (Special Occasions Licensing) Order 2001]; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 265] [Mr Peter Pike].

    2    Environment, Food and Rural Affairs,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs Committee [The Animal Health Bill]; to be printed [No. 339-i] [Mr David Curry].

    3    Home Affairs,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Home Affairs Committee and Memoranda laid before the Committee [The Government's Drugs Policy: Is it Working?]; to be printed [No. 318-ii] [Mr Chris Mullin].

    4    Statutory Instruments,-Eighth Report from the Joint Committee on Statutory Instruments, together with Memoranda laid before the Committee; to be printed [No. 135-viii] [Mr David Tredinnick].

    5    Treasury,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Treasury Committee [Departmental Reports Review]; to be printed [No. 340-i] [Mr John McFall].

    6    Welsh Affairs,-Memorandum from the Wales Office laid before the Welsh Affairs Committee [The Primary Legislative Process as it affects Wales] [Mr Martyn Jones].


[W.H., No. 20]

Minutes of Proceedings of the Sitting in Westminster Hall
[pursuant to the Order of 20th November 2000]

The sitting commenced at half-past Nine o'clock.

    Adjournment,-Resolved, That the sitting be now adjourned.-(Mrs Anne McGuire.)

         And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till to-morrow.

[Adjourned at 1.59 p.m.

Sir Alan Haselhurst   
Deputy Speaker      



 
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