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House of Commons Votes and Proceedings
Thursday 28th June 2001

The House met at half-past Eleven o'clock.

PRAYERS.

1    Electoral Fraud (Northern Ireland) Bill,-Mr Secretary Reid, supported by The Prime Minister, Mr Secretary Blunkett, Mr Secretary Byers and Mr Desmond Browne presented a Bill to provide for the supply to the Chief Electoral Officer for Northern Ireland of the signatures and dates of birth of electors and persons seeking registration as electors in Northern Ireland; for the use of that information in connection with elections in Northern Ireland; for the issue of electoral identity cards by the Chief Electoral Officer for Northern Ireland; for the modification in relation to voters with disabilities of certain rules about voting procedure in Northern Ireland; and for connected purposes: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Monday next and to be printed [Bill 6].

    Ordered, That the Explanatory Notes relating to the Electoral Fraud (Northern Ireland) Bill be printed [Bill 6-EN].

2    Business of the House,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That, at this day's sitting, the Speaker shall put the Questions necessary to dispose of proceedings on the Motions in the name of Mr Robin Cook relating to Programming of Legislation and Deferred Divisions not later than half-past Six o'clock; and such Questions shall include the Questions on any amendments selected by the Speaker which may then be moved; and those Questions may be decided, though opposed, after the expiration of the time for opposed business-(Mr Stephen Twigg);

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Tony McNulty, Mr Ian Pearson: 307.

      Tellers for the Noes, Mr John Randall, Mr James Gray: 118.

    So the Question was agreed to.

3    Programming of Bills,-A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That in the current Session of Parliament Orders A to I below shall have effect:

    A. Programme Motions

    (1) If, before second reading of a bill, notice of a motion providing-

      (a) for committal of the bill, and

      (b) for any proceedings on the bill to be programmed,

    is given by a Minister of the Crown, the motion may be made immediately after second reading, and Standing Order No.63 shall not apply to the Bill.

    (2) Such a motion is to be called a programme motion.

    (3) An order made by the House as a result of a programme motion is to be called a programme order.

    (4) A motion to vary or supplement a programme order is also to be called a programme motion.

    (5) A programme motion may provide for the allocation of time for any proceedings on a bill.

    (6) Except in the following three cases, or where paragraph (8) of Programme Order B (Programming Committees) applies, the question on a programme motion is to be put forthwith.

    (7) The first exception is where-

      (a) a Standing Committee has reported a resolution under paragraph (11) of Sessional Order C (Programming Sub-Committees) proposing an alteration of the date by which the bill is to be reported to the House, and

      (b) the motion made under paragraph (12) of Sessional Order C (Programming Sub-Committees) does not give effect to the Standing Committee's proposal.

    (8) The second exception is where the motion makes further provision for proceedings on consideration and third reading of the bill otherwise than in accordance with a resolution of a Programming Committee under paragraph (5) of Sessional Order B (Programming Committees) or a resolution of a Standing Committee under paragraph (13) of Sessional Order C (Programming Sub-Committees).

    (9) The third exception is where the motion reduces the amount of time allocated under a programme order for any proceedings on the bill (whether or not it also increases the amount of time allocated for other proceedings on the bill).

    (10) In an excepted case, any question necessary to dispose of proceedings on a programme motion is to be put not later than three-quarters of an hour after the commencement of proceedings on the motion.

    (11) Standing Order No. 15 (1) (Exempted Business) applies to procedings on a programme motion.

    (12) Standing Order No. 83 (Allocation of Time) does not apply to a programme motion.

    (13) If a programme order applies to a bill, neither Standing Order No.82 (Business Committee) nor Standing Order No.120 (Business Sub-Committee) applies to the bill.

    B. Programming Committees

    (1) This order applies if proceedings in committee of the whole House or on consideration and third reading are subject to a programme order.

    (2) There is to be a committee for the bill consisting of-

      (a) the Chairman of Ways and Means (who is to be chairman of the committee); and

      (b) not more than eight other Members, nominated by the Speaker.

    (3) The committee is to be called the Programming Committee.

    (4) The quorum of the Programming Committee is four.

    (5) The Programming Committee shall consider the allocation of time to proceedings in committee of the whole House or on consideration and third reading and report any resolution which it makes to the House.

    (6) Proceedings in the Programming Committee shall be brought to a conclusion not later than two hours after their commencement.

    (7) For the purposes of bringing any proceedings to a conclusion in accordance with paragraph (6), the chairman shall-

      (a) first put forthwith any question which has been proposed from the chair and not yet decided; and

      (b) then put successively questions on any motions made by a Minister of the Crown.

    (8) On a motion being made in the House relating to a resolution of the Programming Committee, any question necessary to dispose of proceedings on the motion shall be put not later than three-quarters of an hour after the commencement of those proceedings.

    (9) If such a motion is agreed to, its provisions shall have effect as if they were included in the programme order for the bill.

    (10) Proceedings on a motion made under paragraph (8) may be entered upon and decided, though opposed, at any hour.

    (11) Resolutions of the Programming Committee-

      (a) may be reported from time to time; and

      (b) subject to the powers of the Speaker or Chairman to select the amendments, new clauses and new schedules to be proposed, may include alterations in the order in which specified proceedings on the bill are to be taken.

    C. Programming Sub-Committees

    (1) If a bill is subject to a programme order which commits it to a standing committee, the order stands referred to the committee and shall be considered by a sub-committee of the committee.

    (2) The sub-committee is to be called the Programming Sub-Committee.

    (3) The Programming Sub-Committee shall consist of-

      (a) the chairman or one of the chairmen of the committee (who is to be chairman of the sub-committee); and

      (b) seven members of the committee, nominated by the Speaker.

    (4) The quorum of the Programming Sub-Committee is four.

    (5) The Programming Sub-Committee shall report to the committee any resolution which it makes about-

      (a) the number of sittings to be allotted to the consideration of the bill in the committee;

      (b) the allocation of the proceedings to each sitting;

      (c) the time at which any proceedings, if not previously concluded, are to be brought to a conclusion;

      (d) the date by which the bill is to be reported to the House;

      (e) the programming of consideration and third reading.

    (6) Proceedings in the Programming Sub-Committee shall be brought to a conclusion not later than two hours after their commencement.

    (7) For the purposes of bringing any proceedings to a conclusion in accordance with paragraph (6), the chairman shall-

      (a) first put forthwith any question which has been proposed from the chair and not yet been decided; and

      (b) then put forthwith successively questions on any motions made by a Minister of the Crown.

    (8) Resolutions of the Programming Sub-Committee-

      (a) may be reported from time to time; and

      (b) subject to the powers of the chairman to select the amendments, new Clauses and new Schedules to be proposed, may include alterations in the order in which specified proceedings are to be taken.

    (9) On a motion in the terms of a resolution of the Programming Sub-Committee being made in the committee, any question necessary to dispose of proceedings on the motion is to be put not later than half an hour after the commencement of those proceedings.

    (10) If the provisions of a resolution of the Programming Sub-Committee under sub-paragraphs (a), (b) or (c) of paragraph (5) are agreed to (with or without modification) by the committee, the provisions (or the provisions as modified) are to have effect as if they were included in the programme order for the bill.

    (11) Any resolution of the committee-

      (a) proposing an alteration to the date by which the Bill is to be reported to the House; or

      (b) making a recommendation about the programming of the Bill on consideration and third reading;

    shall be reported to the House.

    (12) If a resolution is reported proposing an alteration to the date by which the Bill is to be reported to the House, a supplemental programme motion shall be set down for a day not later than the fifth sitting day after the day when the report was made which may-

      (a) give effect to the Committee's proposal;

      (b) otherwise alter or supplement the provisions of the original programme of the bill; or

      (c) confirm the date set in the original programme order for the bill.

    (13) If a resolution is reported making a recommendation about the programming of the Bill on consideration and third reading, a supplemental programme motion shall be set down before the consideration of the bill on report which may-

      (a) give effect to the Committee's recommendations;

      (b) otherwise alter or supplement the provisions of the original programme of the bill; or

      (c) confirm the original programme order for the bill.

    D. Programme orders: conclusion of proceedings in Standing Committee or in Committee of the whole House

    (1) This order applies for the purpose of bringing proceedings in standing committee or in committee of the whole House to a conclusion in accordance with a programme order.

    (2) The chairman shall put forthwith the following questions (but no others)-

      (a) any question already proposed from the chair;

      (b) any question necessary to bring to a decision a question so proposed;

      (c) the question on any amendment, new clause or new schedule selected by the chairman for separate division;

      (d) the question on any amendment moved or motion made by a Minister of the Crown;

      (e) any other question necessary for the disposal of the business to be concluded.

    (3) On a motion made for a new clause or a new schedule, the chairman shall put only the question that the clause or schedule be added to the bill.

    (4) If two or more questions would fall to be put under paragraph (2)(d) on successive amendments moved or motions made by a Minister of the Crown, the chairman shall instead put a single question in relation to those amendments or motions.

    (5) If two or more questions would fall to be put under paragraph (2)(e) in relation to successive provisions of the bill, the chairman shall instead put a single question in relation to those provisions.

    (6) On conclusion of the proceedings in a committee, the chairman shall report the bill (or such of the bill's provisions as were committed to it) to the House without putting any question.

    E. Programme orders: conclusion of proceedings on consideration or third reading

    (1) This order applies for the purpose of bringing proceedings on consideration and third reading to a conclusion in accordance with a programme order.

    (2) The Speaker shall put forthwith the following questions (but no others)-

      (a) any question already proposed from the chair;

      (b) any question necessary to bring to a decision a question so proposed;

      (c) the question on any amendment, new clause or new schedule selected by the Speaker for separate division;

      (d) the question on any amendment moved or motion made by a Minister of the Crown;

      (e) any other question necessary for the disposal of the business to be concluded.

    (3) On a motion made for a new clause or a new schedule, the Speaker shall put only the question that the clause or schedule be added to the bill.

    (4) If two or more questions would fall to be put under paragraph (2)(d) on successive amendments moved or motions made by a Minister of the Crown, the Speaker shall instead put a single question in relation to those amendments or motions.

    F. Programme orders: conclusion of proceedings on consideration of Lords Amendments

    (1) This order applies for the purpose of bringing proceedings on consideration of Lords Amendments to a conclusion in accordance with a programme order.

    (2) The Speaker shall first put forthwith any question which has been proposed from the chair and not yet decided.

    (3) If that question is for the amendment of a Lords Amendment, the Speaker shall then put forthwith-

      (a) a single question on any further amendments of the Lords Amendment moved by a Minister of the Crown; and

      (b) the question on any motion made by a Minister of the Crown that this House agrees or disagrees with the Lords in their Amendment or (as the case may be) in their Amendment as amended.

    (4) The Speaker shall then put forthwith-

      (a) a single question on any amendments moved by a Minister of the Crown to a Lords Amendment; and

      (b) the question on any motion made by a Minister of the Crown that this House agrees or disagrees with the Lords in their Amendment or (as the case may be) in their Amendment as amended.

    (5) The Speaker shall then put forthwith the question on any motion made by a Minister of the Crown that this House disagrees with the Lords in a Lords Amendment.

    (6) The Speaker shall then put forthwith the question that this House agrees with the Lords in all the remaining Lords Amendments.

    (7) As soon as the House has-

      (a) agreed or disagreed with the Lords in any of their Amendments; or

      (b) disposed of an amendment relevant to a Lords Amendment which has been disagreed to,

    the Speaker shall put forthwith a single question on any amendments moved by a Minister of the Crown relevant to the Lords Amendment.

    G. Programme orders: conclusion of proceedings on further messages from the Lords

    (1) This order applies for the purpose of bringing proceedings on any further message from the Lords to a conclusion in accordance with a programme order.

    (2) The Speaker shall first put forthwith any question which has been proposed from the chair and not yet decided.

    (3) The Speaker shall then put forthwith the question on any motion made by a Minister of the Crown which is related to the question already proposed from the chair.

    (4) The Speaker shall then put forthwith the question on any motion made by a Minister on or relevant to any of the remaining items in the Lords message.

    (5) The Speaker shall then put forthwith the question that this House agrees with the Lords in all of the remaining Lords proposals.

    H. Programme orders: Reasons Committee

    (1) This order applies in relation to any Committee to be appointed to draw up Reasons after proceedings have been brought to a conclusion in accordance with a programme order.

    (2) The Speaker shall put forthwith the question on any motion made by a Minister of the Crown for the appointment, nomination and quorum of a Committee to draw up Reasons and the appointment of its chairman.

    (3) The Committee shall report before the conclusion of the sitting at which it is appointed.

    (4) Proceedings in the Committee shall be brought to a conclusion not later than half an hour after their commencement.

    (5) For the purpose of bringing any proceedings to a conclusion in accordance with paragraph (4), the chairman shall-

      (a) first put forthwith any question which has been proposed from the chair and not yet decided; and

      (b) then put forthwith successively questions on motions which may be made by a Minister of the Crown for assigning a Reason for disagreeing with the Lords in any of their Amendments.

    (6) The proceedings of the Committee shall be reported without any further question being put.

    I. Programme orders: supplementary provisions

    (1) The provisions of this order apply to proceedings in the House or in Committee of the whole House on a bill which is subject to a programme order.

    (2) Standing Order No. 15(1) (Exempted business) applies to the proceedings for any period after ten o'clock (or on Thursday, seven o'clock) allocated to them in accordance with the programme order.

    (3) The proceedings may not be interrupted under any Standing Order relating to the sittings of the House.

    (4) If, on a day on which the bill has been set down to be taken as an order of the day, a motion for the adjournment of the House under Standing Order No.24 (Adjournment on specific and important matter that should have urgent consideration) would, apart from this order, stand over to Seven o'clock-

      (a) that motion stands over until the conclusion of any proceedings on the bill which, in accordance with the programme order, are to be brought to conclusion at or before that time; and

      (b) the bringing to a conclusion of any proceedings on the bill which, in accordance with the programme order, are to be brought to a conclusion after that time is postponed for a period of time equal to the duration of the proceedings on that motion.

    (5) If a day on which the bill has been set down to be taken as an order of the day is one to which a motion for the adjournment of the House under Standing Order No.24 stands over from an earlier day, the bringing to a conclusion of any proceedings on the bill which, in accordance with the programme order, are to be brought to a conclusion on that day is postponed for a period equal to the duration of the proceedings on that motion.

    (6) No dilatory motion may be made in relation to the proceedings except by a Minister of the Crown; and the question on any such motion is to be put forthwith.

    (7) If at any sitting the House is adjourned, or the sitting is suspended, before the expiry of the period at the end of which proceedings are to be brought to a conclusion under a programme order, no notice is required of a motion made at the next sitting by a Minister of the Crown for varying or supplementing the provisions of the programme order-(Mr Robin Cook);

    And it being half-past Six o'clock, the Deputy Speaker put the Question, pursuant to Order [this day];

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Ivor Caplin, Jim Fitzpatrick: 265.

      Tellers for the Noes, Mr Edward Leigh, Mr Gerald Howarth: 125.

    So the Question was agreed to.

    The Deputy Speaker then put the remaining Question which she was directed to put at that hour.

    Deferred Divisions,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put, That in the current Session of Parliament the following Order shall have effect:

    (1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), Standing Order No.38 (Procedure on divisions) shall not apply if, after the time for the interruption of business, the opinion of the Speaker as to the decision on a question is challenged in respect of any question.

    (2) Standing Order No.38 (Procedure on divisions) shall apply (and this order shall not apply) to questions-

      (a) on motions or amendments in the course of proceedings on bills or allocating time to or programming such proceedings;

      (b) on motions which may be made without notice;

      (c) on motions to be disposed of immediately following the disposal of amendments proposed thereto, and on such amendments;

      (d) on motions made under-

      (i) paragraph (2) of Standing Order No.15 (Exempted business);

      (ii) paragraph (3) of Standing Order No.51 (Ways and means motions);

      (iii) Sub-paragraph (1)(a) of Standing Order No.52 (Money resolutions and ways and means resolutions in connection with bills);

      (iv) paragraph (5) of Standing Order No.54 (Consideration of estimates); and

      (v) paragraph (1) of Standing Order No.55 (Questions on voting of estimates, &c.); and

      (e) on motions made under paragraph 3 below or to which an order made under that paragraph applies.

    (3) After the moment of interruption and the conclusion of proceedings under any other Standing Order which fall to be taken immediately after it, a Minister of the Crown may make a motion to the effect that this order shall not apply to questions on any specified motions; such motion may be proceeded with, though opposed, and the question thereon shall be put forthwith.

    (4) If the opinion of the Speaker is challenged under paragraph (1) of this order, he shall defer the division until half-past Three o'clock on the next Wednesday on which the House shall sit.

    (5) On any Wednesday to which a division has been deferred under paragraph (4) above-

      (a) Members may record their votes on the question under arrangements made by the Speaker;

      (b) votes may be recorded for one and a half hours after half-past Three o'clock, no account being taken of any period during which the House or committee proceeds to a division; and

      (c) the Speaker, or the Chairman, shall announce the result of the deferred division as soon as may be after the expiry of the period mentioned in sub-paragraph (b) above-(Mr John Heppell);

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Ivor Caplin, Jim Fitzpatrick: 268.

      Tellers for the Noes, Mr Edward Leigh, Mr Gerald Howarth: 130.

    So the Question was agreed to.

4    Business of the House,-A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That Private Members' Bills shall have precedence over Government business on 26th October, 2nd, 23rd and 30th November 2001, 11th, 18th and 25th January, 15th March, 12th and 19th April, 10th May, 21st June, 19th July 2002-(Mr John Heppell);

    And it being Seven o'clock, the Debate stood adjourned.

    Ordered, That the Debate be resumed on Monday next.

5    Adjournment,-Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.-(Mr John Heppell.)

    And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till Twenty-nine minutes past Seven o'clock, adjourned till Monday 2nd July.

[Adjourned at 7.29 p.m.

Michael J. Martin
Speaker


Mr Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Two o'clock on Monday 2nd July.


APPENDIX I

Papers presented or laid upon the Table:

Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:

    1    Contracting Out,-Draft Contracting Out of Functions (Tribunal Staff) Order 2001 [by Act] [Ms Rosie Winterton].

    2    Town and Country Planning,-Draft Town and Country Planning (Fees for Applications and Deemed Applications) (Amendment) (England) Regulations 2001 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Byers].

Papers subject to Negative Resolution:

    3    Environmental Protection,-Air Quality Limit Values Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 2315), dated 25th June 2001 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Byers].

    4    Plant Health,-Plant Health (England) (Amendment) Order 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 2342), dated 26th June 2001 [by Act] [Secretary Margaret Beckett].

    5    Social Security,-Discretionary Housing Payments (Grants) Order 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 2340), dated 27th June 2001 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Darling].

    6    Supreme Court (Northern Ireland),-Rules of the Supreme Court (Northern Ireland) (Amendment) 2001(S.R. (N.I.), 2001, No. 254), dated 23rd June 2001 [by Act] [Ms Rosie Winterton].

Other Papers:

    7    Appropriations in Aid,-Treasury Minute, dated 28th June 2001, directing the application of certain receipts as appropriations in aid of the services specified in the Summer Summary Supplementary Request for Supply for 2001-02 [by Act] [Mr Andrew Smith].

    8    Industrial Development,-Report for 2000-01 by the Secretary of State for Trade and Industry, the First Minister of the Scottish Parliament and the First Secretary of the National Assembly for Wales under the Industrial Development Act 1982 [by Act]; to be printed [No. 83] [Ms Secretary Hewitt].

    9    National Audit,-Report by the Comptroller and Auditor General on Income Tax Self Assessment [by Act]; to be printed [No. 56] [Clerk of the House].

    10    Northern Ireland,-Proposal for a draft Criminal Injuries Compensation (Northern Ireland) Order 2001, with an Explanatory Document [by Act] [Mr Secretary Reid].

    11    Public Processions (Northern Ireland),-Report and Statement of Accounts of the Parades Commission for Northern Ireland for 2000-01 [by Act]; to be printed [No. 55] [Mr Secretary Reid].

    12    Regulatory Reform,-Proposal under the Regulatory Reform Act 2001 for the Regulatory Reform (Special Occasions Licensing) Order 2001, with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Act] [Mr Secretary Prescott].

    13    Supply Estimates, 2001-02,-(1) Summer Supplementary Estimates and Summary Supplementary Request for Supply for 2001-02 for Central Government [by Command]; to be printed [No. 46] [Mr Andrew Smith]; and

    (2) Summer Supplementary Estimates for 2001-02 for-

      (a) British Trade International [by Command] [Cm. 5178] [Ms Secretary Hewitt];

      (b) the Cabinet Office [by Command] [Cm. 5215] [Mr Secretary Prescott];

      (c) the Department for Culture, Media and Sport [by Command] [Cm. 5203] [Secretary Tessa Jowell];

      (d) the Department of the Environment, Transport and the Regions [by Command] [Cm. 5195] [Mr Secretary Byers];

      (e) the Food Standards Agency [by Command] [Cm. 5200] [Mr Secretary Milburn];

      (f) the Home Office [by Command] [Cm. 5214] [Mr Secretary Blunkett];

      (g) the Intervention Board Executive Agency [by Command] [Cm. 5196] [Secretary Margaret Beckett]; and

      (h) the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food [by Command] [Cm. 5202] [Secretary Margaret Beckett].

[W.H., No. 1]

Minutes of Proceedings of the Sitting in Westminster Hall
[pursuant to the Order of 20th November 2000]

The sitting commenced at half-past Two o'clock.

    Adjournment (Road Safety),-Resolved, That the sitting be now adjourned.-(Mrs Anne McGuire.)

    And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till Tuesday 3rd July.

[Adjourned at 5.28 p.m.

Sir Alan Haselhurst
Deputy Speaker



 
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