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House of Commons Votes and Proceedings
Monday 12th March 2001

The House met at half-past Two o'clock.

PRAYERS.

1    Criminal Justice and Police Bill,-Minutes of Proceedings of Standing Committee F, in respect of the Criminal Justice and Police Bill, to be printed [No. 325].

2    First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,-Mr Peter L. Pike reported from the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the draft British Waterways Board (Limit for Borrowing) Order 2001.

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

3    Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,-Mr Jonathan Sayeed reported from the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the draft School Standards and Framework Act 1998 (Amendment of Schedule 18) (England) Order 2001.

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

4    Welsh Grand Committee,-Mr Barry Jones reported from the Welsh Grand Committee, That it had considered the matter of the Budget Statement and its implications for Wales, referred to it on 1st March, and had directed him to report accordingly to the House.

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to be printed [No. 35].

5    Message from the Lords,-A Message was brought from the Lords, as follows:

    Social Security Fraud Bill [Lords],-The Lords have passed a Bill to make provision, for the purposes of the law relating to social security, about the obtaining and disclosure of information; and to make provision for restricting the payment of social security benefits and war pensions in the case of persons convicted of offences relating to such benefits or pensions and about the institution of proceedings for such offences; and for connected purposes; to which the Lords desire the concurrence of this House.

6    Social Security Fraud Bill [Lords],-The Social Security Fraud Bill [Lords] was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time to-morrow and to be printed [Bill 60].

    Ordered, That the Explanatory Notes relating to the Social Security Fraud Bill [Lords] be printed [Bill 60-EN].

7    Air Travellers (Provision of Health Information),-Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to require air carriers to provide information to passengers on health risks associated with flying and to contribute to research into such risks: And that Mr John Smith, Dr Ian Gibson, Dr Ashok Kumar, Dr Doug Naysmith, Dr Howard Stoate, Dr Brian Iddon, Dr Desmond Turner and Dr David Clark do prepare and bring it in.

8    Air Travellers (Provision of Health Information) Bill,-Mr John Smith accordingly presented a Bill to require air carriers to provide information to passengers on health risks associated with flying and to contribute to research into such risks: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Friday 6th April and to be printed [Bill 59].

9    Ways and Means,-Amendment of the Law,-The Order of the day being read, for resuming the adjourned Debate on the Question proposed on 7th March,

    (1) That it is expedient to amend the law with respect to the National Debt and the public revenue and to make further provision in connection with finance.

    (2) Subject to paragraphs (3) to (6) below, this Resolution does not extend to the making of any amendment with respect to value added tax so as to provide-

    (a) for zero-rating or exempting a supply, acquisition or importation;

    (b) for refunding an amount of tax;

    (c) for varying any rate at which that tax is at any time chargeable;

    (d) for any relief, other than a relief which-

      (i) so far as it is applicable to goods, applies to goods of every description, and

      (ii) so far as it is applicable to services, applies to services of every description.

    (3) Paragraph (2) above does not exclude the making of amendments with respect to value added tax-

    (a) providing for refunds of the kind specified in paragraph (4) below;

    (b) providing for that tax to be charged at a reduced rate of 5 per cent. on supplies of the descriptions specified in paragraph (5) below (and on equivalent acquisitions and importations); or

    (c) making provision of the kind authorised by paragraph (6) below.

    (4) The refunds mentioned in paragraph (3)(a) above are refunds of value added tax where-

    (a) that tax is chargeable on a supply to, or an acquisition or importation by, a museum or gallery, and

    (b) the supply, acquisition or importation is attributable to supplies of free rights of admission to the museum or gallery.

    (5) The supplies mentioned in paragraph (3)(b) above are-

    (a) supplies, in the course of a conversion of a building (or part of a building), of services related to the conversion if after the conversion the building (or part) contains living accommodation;

    (b) supplies, in the course of the renovation or alteration (including the extension) of a dwelling that has been unoccupied for at least three years, of services related to the renovation or alteration;

    (c) supplies of goods by a person making a supply of services within sub-paragraph (a) or (b) above if-

      (i) those services include the incorporation of the goods into the building concerned (or its site), and

      (ii) the goods are building materials within the meaning of Group 5 of Schedule 8 to the Value Added Tax Act 1994;

    (d) supplies of children's car seats.

    (6) The provision authorised by this paragraph is provision re-enacting, without altering any person's liability to value added tax or the amount of any such liability, provisions providing for that tax to be charged at a reduced rate of 5 per cent. on certain supplies, acquisitions and importations;

    And the Question being again proposed:-The House resumed the adjourned Debate.

    And it being Ten o'clock, the Debate stood adjourned.

    Ordered, That the Debate be resumed to-morrow.

10    Business of the House,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 15 (Exempted business), That, at this day's sitting, the Motion relating to the Criminal Justice and Police Bill may be proceeded with, though opposed, until any hour-(Mr Kevin Hughes);

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Ian Pearson, Mr Clive Betts: 266.

      Tellers for the Noes, Mr Eric Forth, Mr Gerald Howarth: 134.

    So the Question was agreed to.

11    Criminal Justice and Police Bill,-A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That, following the Report of the Chairman of Standing Committee F on 9th March, the Criminal Justice and Police Bill shall be deemed to have been reported to the House, as amended by the Committee, and as if those Clauses and Schedules the consideration of which had not been completed by the Committee had been ordered to stand part of the Bill, with the outstanding Amendments which stood on the Order paper in the name of Mr Charles Clarke-(Mr Charles Clarke);

    An Amendment was proposed to the Question, in line 3, to leave out from the word 'be' to the end of the Question, and to add the words 'remitted to Standing Committee F for consideration of all remaining clauses, schedules and amendments not so far debated in Standing Committee without limit of time for further consideration; that a week shall elapse between the completion of Committee Stage and the commencement of Report Stage; and that notwithstanding the Order of the House of 29th January, Report Stage do continue without limit of time until completion; and that one day be allocated for the Third Reading of the Bill', instead thereof.-(Mr Simon Hughes.)

    And the Question being proposed, That the Amendment be made;

Tuesday 13th March 2001

    Mr Keith Bradley rose in his place and claimed to move, That the Question be now put;

    And the Question being put, That the Question be now put;

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Kevin Hughes, Mrs Anne McGuire: 240.

      Tellers for the Noes, Mr Stephen Day, Mr Owen Paterson: 142.

    So the Question was agreed to.

    And the Question being accordingly put, That the Amendment be made;

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Andrew Stunell, Mr Adrian Sanders: 143.

      Tellers for the Noes, Mrs Anne McGuire, Mr Kevin Hughes: 240.

    So the Question was negatived.

    And the Main Question being put;

    The House divided.

      Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Don Touhig, Jim Dowd: 238.

      Tellers for the Noes, Mr Stephen Day, Mr Owen Paterson: 142.

    So the Question was agreed to.

    Ordered, That, following the Report of the Chairman of Standing Committee F on 9th March, the Criminal Justice and Police Bill shall be deemed to have been reported to the House, as amended by the Committee, and as if those Clauses and Schedules the consideration of which had not been completed by the Committee had been ordered to stand part of the Bill, with the outstanding Amendments which stood on the Order paper in the name of Mr Charles Clarke.

    Bill, as amended in Standing Committee F and pursuant to Order [this day], to be considered this day; and to be printed [Bill 58].

12    Adjournment,-Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.-(Mr Mike Hall.)

    And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till twenty-eight minutes to Three o'clock on Tuesday morning, adjourned till this day.

[Adjourned at 2.32 a.m.

Michael J. Martin
Speaker


Mr Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Two o'clock.


    APPENDIX I

Papers presented or laid upon the Table:

Papers subject to Affirmative Resolution:

    1    Justices of the Peace,-Draft Justices and Justices' Clerks (Costs) Regulations 2001 [by Act] [Mr David Lock].

    2    Local Government Finance,-Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 77) on 2000/2001 Special Grant for Unaccompanied Asylum-Seeking Children [by Act]; to be printed [No. 315] [Mr Secretary Straw].

    3    Supreme Court of England and Wales,-Draft General Commissioners of Income Tax (Costs) Regulations 2001 [by Act] [Mr David Lock].

Papers subject to Negative Resolution:

    4    Animals,-(1) Foot-and-Mouth Disease (Export of Vehicles) (Disinfection of Tyres) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 887),

    (2) Import and Export Restrictions (Foot-and-Mouth Disease) (No. 2) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 885), and

    (3) Import and Export Restrictions (Foot-and-Mouth Disease) (No. 3) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 886),

    dated 9th March 2001 [by Act] [Mr Nicholas Brown].

    5    Climate Change Levy,-Climate Change Levy (General) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 838), dated 9th March 2001 [by Act] [Mr Stephen Timms].

    6    Customs and Excise,-(1) Aircraft Operators (Accounts and Records) (Amendment) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 837), and

    (2) Air Passenger Duty (Amendment) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 836)

    dated 8th March 2001 [by Act] [Mr Stephen Timms].

    7    Education,-Financing of Maintained Schools (England) (Amendment) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 907), dated 10th March 2001 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Blunkett].

    8    Housing,-Housing Renewal Grants (Amendment) (England) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 739), dated 5th March 2001 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Prescott].

    9    Immigration,-(1) Immigration (European Economic Area) (Amendment) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 865),

    (2) Immigration and Asylum Appeals (One-Stop Procedure) (Amendment) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 867), and

    (3) Immigration and Asylum Appeals (Notices) (Amendment) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 868),

    dated 8th March 2001 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Straw].

    10    Income Tax,-Individual Savings Account (Amendment) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 908), dated 12th March 2001 [by Act] [Miss Melanie Johnson].

    11    Legal Services Commission,-(1) Criminal Defence Service (Funding) Order 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 855),

    (2) Criminal Defence Service (Recovery of Defence Costs Orders) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 856), and

    (3) Legal Services Commission (Disclosure of Information) (Amendment) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 857)

dated 8th March 2001 [by Act] [Mr David Lock].

    12    Northern Ireland,-Public Processions (Northern Ireland) Act 1998 (Accounts and Audit) Order 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 852), dated 23rd February 2001 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Reid].

    13    Pensions,-Local Government Pension Scheme (Miscellaneous) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 770), dated 7th March 2001 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Prescott].

    14    Road Traffic,-Road Traffic (Permitted Parking Area and Special Parking Area) (City of Salford) Order 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 894), dated 9th March 2001 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Prescott].

    15    Savings Banks,-National Savings Bank (Amendment) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 858), dated 9th March 2001 [by Act] [Miss Melanie Johnson].

    16    Social Security,-Tax Credits (Miscellaneous Amendments No. 3) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 892), dated 9th March 2001 [by Act] [Dawn Primarolo].

    17    Social Security (Northern Ireland),-Tax Credits (Miscellaneous Amendments No. 3) (Northern Ireland) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 893), dated 9th March 2001 [by Act] [Dawn Primarolo].

    18    Statutory Instruments (Notification),-Communication declaring that the undermentioned Statutory Instrument had come into operation before copies were laid before Parliament, and explaining why such copies had not been so laid before the Instrument came into operation:

    Import and Export Restrictions (Foot-and-Mouth Disease) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 665)

    [by Standing Order] [The Speaker].

Other Papers:

    19    National Audit,-Report by the Comptroller and Auditor General on Maximising the benefits of defence equipment co-operation [by Act]; to be printed [No. 300] [Clerk of the House].

    20    Railways,-Report of the Rail Users' Consultative Committee for Wales, 1999-2000 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Prescott].

    21    Supply Estimates, 1999-2000,-Statement of the sums required to be granted in order to make good excesses on certain grants for 1999-2000 [by Command]; to be printed [No. 323] [Mr Stephen Timms].

APPENDIX II

Standing Committees

    1    International Development Bill,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Bowen Wells from Standing Committee B (nominated in respect of the Bill); and nominated in substitution Mr Andrew Rowe.

    2    Draft British Waterways Board (Limit for Borrowing) Order 2001,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Ann Clwyd from the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Order); and nominated in substitution Mr David Winnick.

    3    Draft Criminal Defence Service (Choice in Very High Cost Cases) Regulations 2001, the draft Criminal Defence Service (Representation Order Appeals) Regulations 2001, and the Code of Conduct for Employees of the Legal Services Commission who provide services as part of the Criminal Defence Service,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Nick Hawkins from the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Regulations and the Code of Conduct); and nominated in substitution Mr Edward Garnier.

    4    Draft Street Works (Charges for Unreasonably Prolonged Occupation of the Highways) (England) Regulations 2001,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Barbara Follett and Helen Southworth from the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Regulations); and nominated in substitution Mr Mike Hendrick and Mr Derek Twigg.

    5    Draft Housing Benefit and Council Tax Benefit (Decisions and Appeals) Regulations 2001 and the draft Social Security Commissioners (Procedure) (Amendment) Regulations 2001,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Tony Clarke and Mr Bob Laxton from the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Regulations); and nominated in substitution Alice Mahon and Mr Alan Simpson.

    6    Draft Limited Liability Partnerships Regulations 2001, and the Limited Liability (Fees) Regulations 2001,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Mrs Anne Campbell from the Sixth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the Regulations); and nominated in substitution Mr Ivan Lewis.

    7    Draft Pensions Appeals Tribunals (Additional Rights of Appeal) Regulations 2001, and the draft Pensions Appeals Tribunals (Late Appeals) Regulations 2001,-The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Terry Lewis from the Seventh Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Regulations); and nominated in substitution Glenda Jackson.

APPENDIX III

Reports from Select Committees

    1    Public Accounts,-(1) Eighth Report from the Committee of Public Accounts [Maintaining the Royal Palaces], together with an Appendix to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 285];

    (2) Ninth Report from the Committee [Managing Finances in English Further Education Colleges]; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 283];

    (3) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [The Radiocommunications Agency's Joint Venture with CMG] [No. 324-i]

    [Mr David Davis].

    2    Science and Technology,-Fourth Report from the Science and Technology Committee [Scientific Advisory System], together with Appendices; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 257] [Dr Michael Clark].



 
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