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House of Commons Votes and Proceedings
Wednesday 31st January 2001

The House met at half-past Two o'clock.

PRAYERS.

    1    Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,-Mr Eric Illsley reported from the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the draft Representation of the People (England and Wales) Regulations 2001 and the draft Representation of the People (Scotland) Regulations 2001.

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.

    2    Welsh Grand Committee,-A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order Nos 107 and 108, That-

    (1)    the matter of Building Safer Communities in Wales be referred to the Welsh Grand Committee for its consideration;

    (2)    the Committee shall meet on Tuesday 13th February at half-past Ten o'clock and between Four o'clock and Six o'clock at Westminster to take questions under Standing Order No. 103 (Welsh Grand Committee (questions for oral answer)), and to consider the matter of Building Safer Communities in Wales under Standing Order No. 107 (Welsh Grand Committee (matters relating exclusively to Wales.))-(Mr Greg Pope);

    The House divided.

    Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Mike Hall, Mr Greg Pope: 334.

    Tellers for the Noes, Mr Eric Forth, Miss Julie Kirkbride: 0.

    So the Question was agreed to.

    Ordered, That-

    (1)    the matter of Building Safer Communities in Wales be referred to the Welsh Grand Committee for its consideration;

    (2)    the Committee shall meet on Tuesday 13th February at half-past Ten o'clock and between Four o'clock and Six o'clock at Westminster to take questions under Standing Order No. 103 (Welsh Grand Committee (questions for oral answer)), and to consider the matter of Building Safer Communities in Wales under Standing Order No. 107 (Welsh Grand Committee (matters relating exclusively to Wales.))

    3    Divorce (Religious Marriages),-Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to make provision enabling a court to require the dissolution of a religious marriage before granting a civil divorce: And that Mr Andrew Dismore, Mrs Gwyneth Dunwoody, Mr Mike Gapes, Mrs Louise Ellman, Mr Ivan Lewis, Ms Linda Perham, Mr Fabian Hamilton, Ms Karen Buck, Mr Barry Gardiner, Mr Stephen Twigg and Mr James Clappison do prepare and bring it in.

    4    Divorce (Religious Marriages) Bill,-Mr Andrew Dismore accordingly presented a Bill to make provision enabling a court to require the dissolution of a religious marriage before granting a civil divorce: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Friday 2nd February and to be printed [Bill 37].

    5    Police,-A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That the Police Grant Report (England and Wales) 2001-02 (House of Commons Paper No. 156), which was laid before this House on 29th January, be approved-(Mr Charles Clarke);

    And it being one and a half hours after the commencement of proceedings on the Motion, the Deputy Speaker put the Question, pursuant to Standing Order No. 16 (Proceedings under an Act or on European Community Documents).

    The House divided.

    Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Gerry Sutcliffe, Mr David Jamieson: 309.

    Tellers for the Noes, Sir Robert Smith, Mr David Heath: 49.

    So the Question was agreed to.

    Resolved, That the Police Grant Report (England and Wales) 2001-02 (House of Commons Paper No. 156), which was laid before this House on 29th January, be approved.

    6    Local Government Finance (England),-A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That the Local Government Finance Report (England) 2001-02 (House of Commons Paper No. 158), which was laid before this House on 29th January, be approved-(Hilary Armstrong);

    And it being one and a half hours after the commencement of proceedings on the Motion, the Deputy Speaker put the Question, pursuant to Standing Order No. 16 (Proceedings under an Act or on European Community Documents).

    The House divided.

    Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Gerry Sutcliffe, Mr David Jamieson: 292.

    Tellers for the Noes, Mr Peter Luff, Mr Geoffrey Clifton-Brown: 167.

    So the Question was agreed to.

    Resolved, That the Local Government Finance Report (England) 2001-02 (House of Commons Paper No. 158), which was laid before this House on 29th January, be approved.

    7    Deferred Divisions,-The Chairman announced the results of the division which had been deferred to this day, pursuant to the Order of the House [7th November]:

    Social Security,-That the draft Social Security (Contributions) (Re-rating and National Insurance Funds Payments) Order 2001, which was laid before this House on 30th November, in the last Session of Parliament, be approved.

    Ayes: 382.

    Noes: 138.

    So the Question was agreed to.

    8    Local Government Finance (England),-A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That the Local Government Finance Report (England) Special Grant Report (No. 72) (House of Commons Paper No. 159), which was laid before this House on 29th January, be approved-(Hilary Armstrong);

    And it being one and a half hours after the commencement of proceedings on the Motion, the Deputy Speaker put the Question, pursuant to Standing Order No. 16 (Proceedings under an Act or on European Community Documents):-It was agreed to.

    9    Science and Technology Committee,-A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed,    That the Select Committee on Science and Technology shall have leave to meet concurrently with any committee of the Lords on science and technology or any sub-committee thereof, for the purpose of deliberating or taking evidence, and to communicate to any such committee its evidence or any other documents relating to matters of common interest-(Paddy Tipping);

    And it being Ten o'clock, the Debate stood adjourned.

    Ordered, That the Debate be resumed to-morrow.

    10    Adjournment,-A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House do now adjourn.-(Jim Dowd);

    And the Motion having been made at Ten o'clock, and the Debate having continued for half an hour, the Speaker adjourned the House without Question put, pursuant to the Standing Order, till to-morrow.

[Adjourned at 10.30 p.m.

Michael J. Martin
             Speaker

                    

Mr Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Eleven o'clock.


APPENDIX I

Papers presented or laid upon the Table:

Papers subject to Negative Resolution:

    1    Employment Tribunals,-Employment Tribunals (Increase of Maximum Deposit) Order 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 237), dated 30th January 2001 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Byers].

    2    Local Government,-Local Authorities (Goods and Services) (Public Bodies) (England) Order 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 243), dated 30th January 2001 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Blunkett].

    3    Road Traffic,-Motor Vehicles (Driving Licences) (Amendment) (No. 2) Regulations 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 236), dated 31st January 2001 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Prescott].

    4    Transport,-Strategic Rail Authority (Licence Exemption) Order 2001 (S.I., 2001, No. 218), dated 30th January 2001 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Prescott].

Other Papers:

    5    Appropriation Accounts, 1999-2000,-Appropriation Accounts of the sums granted by Parliament for Classes:-

    (1) III (Environment, Transport and the Regions and International Development),

    (2) V (Lord Chancellor's and Law Officers' Departments),

    (3) X (Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food and the Intervention Board Executive Agency),

    (4) XII (Department of Social Security),

    (5) XIII (Scotland),

    (6) XV (Northern Ireland),

    (7) XVI (Departments of the Chancellor of the Exchequer),

    (8) XVII (Cabinet Office, Central Office of Information and Privy Council Office), and

    (9) XVIII, XVIIIA and XVIIIB (Cabinet Office, Other Services, Parliament, etc; House of Commons; National Audit Office)

    for 1999-2000 [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 25-III, V, X, XII, XIII, XV, XVI, XVII and XVIII] [Mr Stephen Timms].

    6    Aviation and Maritime Security,-Report for 2000 by the Secretary of State for the Environment, Transport and the Regions under section 44 of the Aviation and Maritime Security Act 1990 on the numbers of notices served by him under section 19 of the 1990 Act, the number of directions given by him under sections 19, 21, 22, 23 and 24 of the Act, and the number of enforcement notices served by authorised persons under the Act [by Act] [Mr Secretary Prescott].

    7    Aviation Security,-Report for 2000 by the Secretary of State for the Environment, Transport and the Regions under section 23 of the Aviation Security Act 1982 as amended by the Aviation and Maritime Security Act 1990 on the numbers of notices served by him under section 11 of the 1982 Act as amended, the number of directions given by him under sections 12, 13, 13A and 14 of the amended Act, and the number of enforcement notices served by authorised persons under the amended Act [by Act] [Mr Secretary Prescott].

    8    Chancellor of the Exchequer's Departments,-Resource Accounts of the Government Actuary's Department for 1999-2000, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 153] [Mr Stephen Timms].

    9    Channel Tunnel Security,-Report for 2000 by the Secretary of State for the Environment, Transport and the Regions under Article 35 of the Channel Tunnel (Security) Order 1994 on the numbers of notices served by him under Article 11, directions given by him under articles 13, 14, 15 and 16 of the Order, and enforcement notices served by authorised persons [by Statutory Instrument] [Mr Secretary Prescott].

    10    Charity Commission,-Resource Accounts of the Charity Commission for 1999-2000, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 191] [Mr Stephen Timms].

    11    Criminal Justice,-Resource Accounts of the Serious Fraud Office for 1999-2000, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 198] [Mr Stephen Timms].

    12    Crown Estate,-Resource Accounts of the Crown Estate for 1999-2000, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No.192] [Mr Stephen Timms].

    13    Culture, Media and Sport,-Resource Accounts of the Department for Culture, Media and Sport for 1999-2000, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 181] [Mr Stephen Timms].

    14    Customs and Excise,-Resource Accounts of HM Customs and Excise for 1999-2000, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 165] [Mr Stephen Timms].

    15    Defence,-Consolidated Departmental Resource Accounts of the Ministry of Defence for 1999-2000, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 50] [Mr Stephen Timms].

    16    Defence Executive Agencies,-Report and Accounts of Service Children's Education for 1999-2000, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 104] [Mr Secretary Hoon].

    17    Deregulation,-Proposal under the Deregulation and Contracting Out Act 1994 by the Minister for the Cabinet Office for the Deregulation (Disposals of Dwelling-houses by Local Authorities) Order 2001, with an Explanatory Memorandum [by Act] [Marjorie Mowlam].

    18    Education and Employment,-Resource Accounts of the Department for Education and Employment    for 1999-2000, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 182] [Mr Stephen Timms].

      19    Fair Trading,-Resource Accounts of the Office of Fair Trading for 1999-2000, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 75] [Mr Stephen Timms].

      20    Forestry,-(1) Accounts of the Forestry Fund for 1st April to 30th June 1999, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 216] [Clerk of the House];

      (2) Resource Accounts for 1999-2000 of-

      (i) Forestry Commission Pension and Early Retirement/ Compensation Schemes, and

      (ii) the Forestry Commission

      with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 201 and 196] [Mr Stephen Timms]; and

      (3) Reports and Accounts for l999-2000 of-

      (i) Forest Research, and

      (ii) the Forestry Commission

      with the Reports of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 99 and 98] [Mr Nicholas Brown].

      21    Foreign and Commonwealth Office,-Resource Accounts of the Foreign and Commonwealth Office for 1999-2000, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 195] [Mr Stephen Timms].

      22    Government Trading Funds,-Resource Accounts of the Central Office of Information    for 1999-2000, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 190] [Mr Stephen Timms].

      23    Health,-Resource Accounts of the Department for Health for 1999-2000, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 194] [Mr Stephen Timms].

      24    Health Executive Agencies,-Resource Accounts of the NHS Pension Scheme and NHS Compensation for Premature Retirement Scheme for 1999-2000, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 188] [Mr Stephen Timms].

      25    International Development,-Resource Accounts of-

      (1) the Department for International Development, and

      (2) Department for International Development Overseas Superannuation Pensions

      for 1999-2000, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [Nos. 116 and 187] [Mr Stephen Timms].

      26    Local Government (Scotland),-Scottish Local Government Financial Statistics for 1998-99 [by Act] [Mrs Secretary Liddell].

      27    Lord Chancellor's Departments,-Resource Accounts of the Northern Ireland Court Service for 1999-2000, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 199] [Mr Stephen Timms].

      28    Privy Council Office,-Resource Accounts of the Privy Council Office for 1999-2000, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 197] [Mr Stephen Timms].

      29    Prosecution of Offences,-Resource Accounts of the Crown Prosecution Service for 1999-2000, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 193] [Mr Stephen Timms].

      30    Public Accounts,-Treasury Minute on the Thirty-eighth to the Forty-second Reports from the Committee of Public Accounts, 1999-2000 [by Command] [Cm. 5021] [Mr Stephen Timms].

      31    Railways,-Resource Accounts of the Office of the Rail Regulator    for 1999-2000, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 184] [Mr Stephen Timms].

      32    Scotland,-Resource Accounts of the Scotland Office for 1999-2000, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 186] [Mr Stephen Timms].

      33    Social Security,-Consolidated Resource Accounts of the Department for Social Security    for 1999-2000, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 183] [Mr Stephen Timms].

      34    Teachers' Pension Scheme,-Resource Accounts of the Teachers' Pension Scheme (England and Wales) for 1999-2000, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 189] [Mr Stephen Timms].

      35    Telecommunications,-Resource Accounts of the Office of Telecommunications for 1999-2000, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 151] [Mr Stephen Timms].

      36    Treasury Executive Agencies,-Resource Accounts of the Office for National Statistics for 1999-2000, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 185] [Mr Stephen Timms].

      37    Treaty Series (No. 4, 2001),-Protocol, done at Brussels on 21st May 1997, to the Partnership and Co-operation Agreement, Establishing a Partnership between the European Communities and their Member States, of the one part, and the Russian Federation, of the other part [by Command] [Cm. 5034] [Mr Secretary Cook].

      38    Treaty Series (No. 5, 2001),-Exchange of Notes, done at Amman on 29th June 1995,    between the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan concerning Certain Commercial Debts    (The United Kingdom/Jordan Debt Agreement No. 3 (1994)) [by Command] [Cm. 5036] [Mr Secretary Cook].

      39    Water,-Resource Accounts of the Office of Water Services for 1999-2000, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Act]; to be printed [No. 176] [Mr Stephen Timms].

      APPENDIX II

    Standing Committees

      1    Health and Social Care Bill,-The Speaker has appointed Mr Bill O'Brien an additional Chairman of Standing Committee E in respect of the Bill.

      2    Criminal Justice and Police Bill:

      (1) The Speaker has allocated the Bill to Standing Committee F, and has appointed Mr Roger Gale and Mr Jimmy Hood Chairmen; and

      (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated twenty-one Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mr Adrian Bailey, Jackie Ballard, Mr Crispin Blunt, Mrs Helen Brinton, Mr Paul Clark, Mr Charles Clarke, Mr James Gray, Mr John Grogan, Mr Fabian Hamilton, Mr Nick Hawkins, Mr Oliver Heald, Mr Simon Hughes, Mrs Joan Humble, Dr Stephen Ladyman, Mr David Lock, Sir Nicholas Lyell, Mr Stephen McCabe, Siobhain McDonagh, Miss Geraldine Smith, Mr Gerry Sutcliffe and Mr Gareth R. Thomas.

      3    Criminal Justice and Police Bill (Programming Sub-committee),-The Speaker has appointed Jackie Ballard, Mr Paul Clark, Mr Charles Clarke, Mr James Gray, Mr John Grogan, Mr Oliver Heald and Mr Gerry Sutcliffe    members of the Programming Sub-Committee of Standing Committee F in respect of the Bill.

      4    Draft Representation of the People (England and Wales) Regulations 2001 and the draft Representation of the People (Scotland) Regulations 2001:

      (1) The Speaker has appointed Mrs Irene Adams an additional Chairman of the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation in respect of the Regulations; and

      (2) The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Tam Dalyell and Dr Norman A. Godman from the Committee; and nominated in substitution Mr David Crausby and Mr Mark Hendrick.

      5    Draft Terrorism Act 2000 (Carding)    Order 2001,-The Speaker has allocated the draft Terrorism Act 2000 (Carding) Order 2001 to the Seventh Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Terrorism Act 2000 (Code of Practice for Examining Officers) Order 2001, the draft Terrorism Act 2000 (Code of Practice for Authorised Officers) Order 2001, and the Terrorism Interviews (Scotland) Order 2001.)

    Grand Committees

      6    The Speaker has appointed Mr John McWilliam Chairman of the Northern Ireland Grand Committee in respect of its meeting on Thursday 8th February.

      APPENDIX III

    Reports from Select Committees

      1    Culture, Media and Sport,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Culture, Media and Sport Committee [The Communications White Paper]; to be printed [No. 161-ii] [Mr Gerald Kaufman].

      2    Education and Employment,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Education Sub-committee of the Education and Employment Committee [Higher Education]; to be printed [No. 124-vi] [Mr Barry Sheerman].

      3    Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs Committee [Walking in Towns and Cities]; to be printed [No.167-i] [Mr Andrew F. Bennett].

      4    Health,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Health Committee [Public Health]; to be printed [No. 30-v] [Mr David Hinchcliffe].

      5    International Development,- Second Special Report from the International Development Committee [Government Response to the Tenth Report from the Committee, Session 1999-2000, on After Seattle - The World Trade Organisation and Developing Countries]; to be printed [No. 218] [Mr Bowen Wells].

      6    Northern Ireland Affairs,- Minutes of Evidence taken before the Northern Ireland Affairs Committee [The Parades Commission]; to be printed [No. 120-iii] [Mr Peter Brooke].

      7    Procedure,- Minutes of Evidence taken before the Procedure Committee [Rules Governing the Election of a Speaker]; to be printed [No. 40-iv] [Mr Nicholas Winterton].

      8    Public Accounts,-(1) Fourth Report from the Committee of Public Accounts [Grants made by the National Lottery Charities Board]; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 168]; and

      (2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [The Re-negotiation of the PFI Deal for the Royal Armouries Museum in Leeds]; to be printed [No. 217-i]

      [Mr David Davis].

      9    Public Administration,- Minutes of Evidence taken before the Public Administration Committee [Making Government Work]; to be printed [No. 94-v] [Tony Wright].

      10    Scottish Affairs,-Minutes of Evidence taken before the Scottish Affairs Committee [The Drinks Industry in Scotland]; to be printed [No. 114-iii] [Mr David Marshall].

      11    Social Security,-First Report from the Social Security Committee [Inherited SERPS], together with an Appendix; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 215] [Mr Archy Kirkwood].

      12    Tax Simplification Bills Joint Committee,-(1) First Report from the Joint Committee on Tax Simplification Bills [Capital Allowances Bill]; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 175];

      (2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Capital Allowances Bill]; to be printed [No. 175-ii]; and

      (3) Memorandum laid before the Committee [Capital Allowances Bill]

      [Mr Kenneth Clarke].

      13    Trade and Industry,-Third Report from the Trade and Industry Committee [Vehicle Manufacturing in the UK], together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 128] [Mr Martin O'Neill].


    [W.H., No. 15]

    Minutes of Proceedings of the Sitting in Westminster Hall
    [pursuant to the Order of 20th November 2000]

      The sitting commenced at half-past Nine o'clock.

      Adjournment,-Resolved, That the sitting be now adjourned.-(Mrs Anne McGuire.)

                      And accordingly the sitting was adjourned till to-morrow.

    [Adjourned at 1.59    p.m.

    Sir Alan Haselhurst
    Deputy Speaker



     
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