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House of Commons Votes and Proceedings
Wednesday 5th April 2000

The House met at half-past Two o'clock.
PRAYERS.
1City of London (Ward Elections) Bill,—The Order of the day being read, for further consideration of the City of London (Ward Elections) Bill, as amended in the Committee;
 
        Ordered, That the Bill be further considered on Wednesday 12th April.
2First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,—Mr Jim Cunningham reported from the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the Report by the Secretary of State for Social Security under Section 82 of the Welfare Reform and Pensions Act 1999 (House of Commons Paper No. 270).
 
        Minutes of proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
3Sixth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation,—Mr Jonathan Sayeed reported from the Sixth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation the Competition Act 1998 (Director's Rules) Order 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 293).
 
        Minutes of proceedings of the Committee to lie upon the Table.
4Message from the Lords,—A Message was brought from the Lords, as follows:
 
        Care Standards Bill [Lords],—The Lords have passed a Bill to establish a National Care Standards Commission; to make provision for the registration and regulation of children's homes, independent hospitals, independent clinics, care homes, residential family centres, independent medical agencies, domiciliary care agencies, fostering agencies and voluntary adoption agencies; to make provision for the regulation and inspection of local authority fostering and adoption services; to establish a General Social Care Council and a Care Council for Wales and make provision for the registration, regulation and training of social care workers; to make provision for the registration, regulation and training of those providing child minding or day care; to make provision for the protection of children and vulnerable adults; to amend the law about children looked after in schools and colleges; to repeal the Nurses Agencies Act 1957; and for connected purposes: to which the Lords desire the concurrence of this House.
5Care Standards Bill [Lords],—The Care Standards Bill [Lords] was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time to-morrow and to be printed [Bill 105].
 
        Ordered, That the Explanatory Notes relating to the Care Standards Bill [Lords] be printed [Bill 105-EN].
6Weights and Measures (Amendment),—Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to make the use of imperial weights and measures no longer subject to proceedings for a criminal offence: And that Mr David Lidington, Mr David Amess, Mr Nick Hawkins, Mr Stephen Day, Mr Nick St. Aubyn, Mr John Hayes and Mr Simon Burns do prepare and bring it in.
7Weights and Measures (Amendment) Bill,—Mr David Lidington accordingly presented a Bill to make the use of imperial weights and measures no longer subject to proceedings for a criminal offence: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Friday 9th June and to be printed [Bill 104].
8Freedom of Information Bill,—The House, according to Order, proceeded further to consider the Freedom of Information Bill, as amended in the Standing Committee.
 
        Another Amendment (No. 107) proposed to the Bill, in page 7, line 28, to leave out from '(e)' to the end of line 31 and to insert the words 'section 38(1)' instead thereof.—(Mr Harry Cohen.)
 
        Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:—Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.
 
        Another Amendment (No. 47) made to the Bill.
 
        Another Amendment (No. 7) proposed to the Bill, in page 8, line 8, to leave out subsection (6).—(Dr Tony Wright.)
 
        Question put, That the Amendment be made.
 
        The House divided.
 
          Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Adrian Sanders, Mr Ronnie Campbell: 202.
 
          Tellers for the Noes, Mr Greg Pope, Mrs Anne McGuire: 311.
 
        Other Amendments (Nos. 48 to 54) made to the Bill.
 
        Another Amendment (No. 110) proposed to the Bill, in page 9, line 22, to leave out Clause 16.—(Mr Nick Hawkins.)
 
        Question put, That the Amendment be made.
 
        The House divided.
 
          Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Keith Simpson, Mr John Randall: 116.
 
          Tellers for the Noes, Mrs Anne McGuire, Mr Greg Pope: 373.
 
        Another Amendment (No. 177) proposed to the Bill, in page 58, line 42, to leave out paragraph 19.—(Mr Richard Shepherd.)
 
        Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:—Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.
 
        Other Amendments (Nos. 55 to 59) made to the Bill.
 
        Another Amendment (No. 92) proposed to the Bill, in page 12, line 1, to leave out Clause 21.—(Mr Richard Shepherd.)
 
        Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:—Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.
 
        Another Amendment (No. 15) proposed to the Bill, in page 13, line 13, after the word 'to,', to insert the word 'substantially'.—(Mr David Heath.)
 
        Question put, That the Amendment be made.
 
        The House divided.
 
          Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Ronnie Fearn, Mr John Burnett: 37.
 
          Tellers for the Noes, Mr Gerry Sutcliffe, Jim Dowd: 336.
 
        Another Amendment (No. 39) proposed to the Bill, in page 15, line 4, at the end, to insert the words 'and if its disclosure under this Act would, or would be likely to, prejudice any of those purposes'.—(Mr Simon Hughes.)
 
        Question put, That the Amendment be made.
 
        The House divided.
 
          Tellers for the Ayes, Bob Russell, Mr Brian Cotter: 61.
 
          Tellers for the Noes, Mr Gerry Sutcliffe, Jim Dowd: 321.
 
        Another Amendment (No. 60) made to the Bill.
 
        Another Amendment (No. 10) proposed to the Bill, in page 18, line 32, at the end, to insert the words—
 
        '(1A) Information is not exempt by virtue of subsection (1) or section 34 insofar as it consists of factual information.'.—(Mr Simon Hughes.)
 
        Question put, That the Amendment be made.
 
        The House divided.
 
          Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Andrew Stunell, Mr Tom Brake: 190.
 
          Tellers for the Noes, Mr Gerry Sutcliffe, Jim Dowd: 317.
 
        And it being after Ten o'clock, further consideration of the Bill stood adjourned.
9Business of the House,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 15 (Exempted business), That, at this day's sitting, the Freedom of Information Bill may be proceeded with, though opposed, until any hour.—(Mr Mike Hall):—It was agreed to.
10Freedom of Information Bill,—The House again proceeded further to consider the Freedom of Information Bill, as amended in the Standing Committee.
 
        Another Amendment (No. 12) proposed to the Bill, in page 19, line 12, to leave out from the word 'if' to the word 'disclosure' in line 13.—(Mr Robert Maclennan.)
 
        Question put, That the Amendment be made.
 
        The House divided.
 
          Tellers for the Ayes, Sir Robert Smith, Mr Ronnie Fearn: 55.
 
          Tellers for the Noes, Mr David Clelland, Mr Clive Betts: 324.
 
        Other Amendments (Nos. 61, 101 and 62) made to the Bill.
 
        Another Amendment (No. 35) proposed to the Bill, in page 23, line 7, to leave out Clause 43.—(Mr Simon Hughes.)
 
        Question put, That the Amendment be made.
 
        The House divided.
 
          Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Andrew Stunell, Mr Brian Cotter: 158.
 
          Tellers for the Noes, Mr David Clelland, Mr Clive Betts: 325.
 
        Another Amendment (No. 63) made to the Bill.
 
        Another Amendment (No. 64) proposed to the Bill, in page 26, line 18, to leave out Clause 48.—(Mr Secretary Straw.)
 
        Question proposed, That the Amendment be made;
Thursday 6th April 2000
 
        Question put and agreed to.
 
        Other Amendments (Nos. 65 to 67, 6, 69 to 71, 89, 90 and 72 to 88) made to the Bill.
 
        A Clause (Exception from duty to comply with decision notice or enforcement notice)—(Mr Mike Hall)—brought up, and read the first time.
 
        Question put, That the Clause be read a second time.
 
        The House divided.
 
          Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Don Touhig, Mr Clive Betts: 302.
 
          Tellers for the Noes, Sir Robert Smith, Jackie Ballard: 173.
 
        Clause added to the Bill.
 
        Another Clause (Information already disclosed)—(Mr Richard Shepherd)—brought up, and read the first time.
 
        Question proposed, That the Clause be read a second time:—Clause, by leave, withdrawn.
 
        Another Clause (Duty to publish manuals etc.)—(Mr Richard Shepherd)—brought up, and read the first time.
 
        Question proposed, That the Clause be read a second time:—Clause, by leave, withdrawn.
 
        The Bill was read the third time, and passed.
11Social Security,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Pneumoconiosis etc. (Workers' Compensation) (Payment of Claims) (Amendment) Regulations 2000, which were laid before this House on 20th March, be approved—(Mr David Jamieson):—It was agreed to.
12Adjournment,—Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.—(Mr David Jamieson)
 
        And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till twenty-four minutes past One o'clock, adjourned till this day.
[Adjourned at 1.24 a.m.
Betty Boothroyd
Speaker        

Madam Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Two o'clock.

APPENDIX I
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
1Betting, Gaming and Lotteries,—Gaming Clubs (Hours and Charges) (Amendment) Regulations 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 899), dated 28th March 2000 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Straw].
2Food,—Tetrachloroethylene in Olive Oil (Revocation) Regulations 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 960), dated 30th March 2000 [by Act] [Mr Nicholas Brown].
3Savings Bank,—Draft National Savings Bank (Investment Deposits) (Limits) (Amendment) Order 2000 [by Act] [Miss Melanie Johnson].
Other Papers:
4Criminal Injuries Compensation,—Report and Accounts of the Criminal Injuries Compensation Appeals Panel for 1998-99, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Command] [Cm. 4670] [Mr Secretary Straw].
5Financial Reporting to Parliament,—Departmental Report 2000: The Government's Expenditure Plans for 2000-01 to 2001-02 for the Department of International Development [by Command] [Cm. 4610] [Secretary Clare Short].
6National Health Service,—(1) Statements of Guarantee given by the Secretary of State for Health on 22nd March 2000 on loans proposed to be raised by the following National Health Service Trusts—
 
          (i) Cornwall Healthcare,
 
          (ii) Dewsbury Healthcare,
 
          (iii) Havering Hospitals,
 
          (iv) Nottingham City Hospital,
 
          (v) Oxford Radcliffe Hospitals,
 
          (vi) Pinderfields and Pontefract Hospitals and
 
          (vii) Royal Devon and Exeter Healthcare,
 
        (2) Statement of Guarantee given by the Secretary of State for Health on 30th March 2000 on loans proposed to be raised by the Newcastle upon Tyne Hospitals National Health Service Trust, and
 
        (3) Statement of Guarantee given by the Secretary of State for Health on 3rd April 2000 on loans proposed to be raised by the University Hospitals of Leicester National Health Service Trust
 
    [by Act] [Mr Secretary Milburn].
7Police (Northern Ireland),—Report for 1999 and Accounts for 1998-99 of the Independent Commission for Police Complaints for Northern Ireland, with the Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General thereon [by Statutory Instrument]; to be printed [No. 366] [Mr Secretary Mandelson].
8Transport,—Statement of Guarantee given by the Treasury on 5th April 2000 in respect of temporary borrowing by the British Waterways Board from National Westminster Bank plc [by Act] [Mr Stephen Timms].
9Treaty Series (No. 36, 2000),—Exchange of Notes, done at London on 10th and 28th July 1997, amending the Headquarters Agreement between the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the International Lead and Zinc Study Group [by Command] [Cm. 4659] [Mr Secretary Cook].
10Treaty Series (No. 37, 2000),—Exchange of Notes, done at Islamabad on 9th March and 11th October 1999, extending the Agreement between the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan for the Promotion and Protection of Investments signed at London on 30th November 1994 to the Isle of Man and the Bailiwicks of Guernsey and Jersey [by Command] [Cm. 4665] [Mr Secretary Cook].
Papers withdrawn:
11Savings Bank,—Draft National Savings Bank (Investment Deposits) (Limits) (Amendment) Order 2000 [laid on 27th March].
APPENDIX II
Standing Committees
1Utilities Bill,—The Speaker has appointed Mr John McWilliam an additional Chairman of Standing Committee A in respect of the Bill.
2Recycled Content of Newsprint Bill:
 
        (1) The Speaker has allocated the Bill to Standing Committee C; and
 
        (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: John Austin, Mr Peter Bottomley, Mr Tom Brake, Mrs Helen Brinton, Sir Sydney Chapman, Mr David Chaytor, Mr John Horam, Mrs Joan Humble, Mr David Lepper, Mr Chris Mullin, Dr Doug Naysmith, Mrs Diana Organ, Mr Gordon Prentice, Mr Terry Rooney, Mr Andrew Stunell and Mr Robert Syms.
3Race Relations (Amendment) Bill [Lords]:
 
        (1) The Speaker has allocated the Bill to Standing Committee D (transferred from Standing Committee G), and has appointed Mr Edward O'Hara and Mr Jonathan Sayeed Chairmen; and
 
        (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee; viz.: Ms Karen Buck, Mr David Faber, Jane Griffiths, Mr Simon Hughes, Mr Piara S. Khabra, Mr Andy King, Ms Oona King, Mr Tom Levitt, Mr David Lidington, Mr Peter Luff, Mr Mike O'Brien, Mr Andrew Rowe, Sir Robert Smith, Paddy Tipping, Mr Don Touhig and Mr Shaun Woodward.
4Learning and Skills Bill [Lords]:
 
        (1) The Speaker has allocated the Bill to Standing Committee F, and has appointed Mr Joe Benton Chairman; and
 
        (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated twenty-one Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mr Richard Allan, Charlotte Atkins, Mr Hilary Benn, Mr Clive Betts, Mr Tom Boswell, Mr Graham Brady, Mr Peter Brooke, Mr David Chaytor, Mr James Clappison, Valerie Davey, Mr Michael Foster, Mr David Hanson, Mr John Hayes, Mr Gordon Marsden, Mr Ken Purchase, Mr Chris Ruane, Dr Phyllis Starkey, Dr Alan Whitehead, Mr Malcolm Wicks, Mr Phil Willis and Mr Michael Wills.
5Draft Youth Justice Board for England and Wales Order 2000:
 
        (1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Order to the First Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr Eric Illsley Chairman; and
 
        (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Ms Diane Abbott, Mr John Burnett, Mr Charles Clarke, Mr Bill Etherington, Mrs Teresa Gorman, Mr Mike Hall, Mr Fabian Hamilton, Mr Doug Henderson, Glenda Jackson, Miss Julie Kirkbride, Mr David Lidington, Mr Peter Luff, Mr John McDonnell, Mr Kevin McNamara, Mr Lembit Öpik and Mr Gareth R. Thomas.
6Draft Immigration (Leave to Enter and Remain) Order 2000:
 
        (1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Order to the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr Eric Illsley Chairman; and
 
        (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mr David Clelland, Mr David Drew, Barbara Follett, Mrs Llin Golding, Mr Oliver Heald, Mr Tom Levitt, Mr Andrew Love, Mr Peter Luff, Judy Mallaber, Mr Mark Oaten, Mr Andrew Reed, Mrs Barbara Roche, Miss Geraldine Smith, Mr Desmond Swayne, Dr Jenny Tonge and Sir Raymond Whitney.
7Draft Access to Justice Act 1999 (Destination of Appeals) Order 2000,—The Committee of Selection has discharged Mr Simon Hughes and Dr Phyllis Starkey from the Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation (nominated in respect of the draft Order); and nominated in substitution Mr John Burnett and Mr Gerald Bermingham.
Grand Committees
8The Speaker has appointed Mr John McWilliam Chairman of the Northern Ireland Grand Committee in respect of its meeting on 13th April.
European Standing Committees
9European Union Documents Nos. 6230/00, relating to the White Paper on Environmental Liability, and 6629/00, relating to Agricultural Price Proposals for 2000-2001, have been referred to European Standing Committee A.
10European Union Documents Nos. COM(99) 644, relating to The Helsinki Report on Sport, and COM(99) 643, relating to Doping in Sport, have been referred to European Standing Committee C.
11The Speaker has appointed Mr Jonathan Sayeed Chairman of European Standing Committee C in respect of European Union Document No. 5671/00 on Food Safety in the European Union.
APPENDIX III
Reports from Select Committees
1Education and Employment,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Education Sub-Committee of the Education and Employment Committee [Early Years Education]; to be printed [No. 386-iii] [Mr Barry Sheerman].
2Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs,—(1) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Environment Sub-Committee of the Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs Committee [The Planning Inspectorate and Public Inquiries]; to be printed [No. 364-ii] [Mr Andrew F. Bennett]; and
 
        (2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Transport Sub-Committee of the Committee [Funding of London Underground]; to be printed [No. 411-i] [Mrs Gwyneth Dunwoody].
3European Scrutiny,—Thirteenth Report from the European Scrutiny Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 23-xiii] [Mr Jimmy Hood].
4Modernisation of the House of Commons,—First Report from the Select Committee on Modernisation of the House of Commons [Facilities for the Media]; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 408] [Margaret Beckett].
5Northern Ireland Affairs,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Northern Ireland Affairs Committee [Recent Political Developments in Northern Ireland]; to be printed [No. 409-i] [Mr Peter Brooke].
6Public Accounts,—(1) Fourteenth Report from the Committee of Public Accounts [Child Support Agency: Client Funds Accounts 1998-99]; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 184];
 
        (2) Fifteenth Report from the Committee [The Procurement of Non-Combat Vehicles for the Royal Air Force]; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 172]; and
 
        (3) Part of the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [The Private Finance Initiative: The Contract for the Defence Fixed Telecommunications System]; to be printed [No. 413-i] [Mr Alan Williams].
7Public Administration,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Select Committee on Public Administration [The Report of the Commissioner for Public Appointments on Public Appointments to NHS Trusts and Health Authorities]; to be printed [No. 410-i] [Mr Ronnie Campbell].
8Social Security,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Social Security Committee [Housing Benefit]; to be printed [No. 385-ii] [Mr Archy Kirkwood].
9Standards and Privileges,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee on Standards and Privileges on 21st March [Complaint against Mr Tony Baldry]; to be printed [No. 369-i] [Mr Robert Sheldon].
10Trade and Industry,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Trade and Industry Committee [BMW, Rover and Longbridge]; to be printed [No. 383-iv] [Mr Martin O'Neill].
11Treasury,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Sub-Committee of the Treasury Committee [Government's Cash and Debt Management]; to be printed [No. 154-vi] [Mr Giles Radice].


Supplement to the Votes and Proceedings
Wednesday 5th April 2000
Minutes of Proceedings of the Sitting in Westminster Hall
[pursuant to the Order of 24th May 1999]

The House met at half-past Nine o'clock.
PRAYERS.
1Adjournment,—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That the sitting be now adjourned.—(Mr Robert Ainsworth.)
 
        And it being Two o'clock, the sitting was adjourned without Question put, till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 2.00 p.m.
Sir Alan Haselhurst
Deputy Speaker        



 
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