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House of Commons Votes and Proceedings
Wednesday 29th March 2000

The House met at half-past Two o'clock.
PRAYERS.
1City of London (Ward Elections) Bill,—The Order of the day being read, for further consideration of the City of London (Ward Elections) Bill, as amended in the Committee;
 
        Ordered, That the Bill be further considered on Wednesday 5th April.
2Health Service Commissioners (Amendment) Bill,—Mr Joe Benton reported from Standing Committee C, That it had gone through the Health Service Commissioners (Amendment) Bill, and directed him to report the same, without Amendment.
 
        Bill, not amended in the Standing Committee, to be considered on Friday 19th May.
 
        Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee to be printed [No. 387].
3European Standing Committee A,—Mrs Ray Michie reported from European Standing Committee A the following Resolution:
 
        That the Committee takes note of European Union Document No. 12992/99, a draft Council Regulation on the reform of the flax and hemp support regime; and supports the Government's aim of promoting reform of this sector, whilst ensuring that the changes to the regime do not prejudice the future viability of the UK industry.
 
        Report, together with Resolution, to lie upon the Table.
4Zoo Licensing (Amendment),—Ordered, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to amend the Zoo Licensing Act 1981 so as to make it unlawful to operate a circus except with the authority of a licence: And that Mr David Amess, Norman Baker, Jackie Ballard, Mr Tony Banks, Mr Simon Burns, Mr Ian Cawsey, Jim Fitzpatrick, Mr Roger Gale, Mr Tim Loughton, Dr Nick Palmer, Mr Martin Salter and Mr Tim Yeo do prepare and bring it in.
5Zoo Licensing (Amendment) Bill,—Mr David Amess accordingly presented a Bill to amend the Zoo Licensing Act 1981 so as to make it unlawful to operate a circus except with the authority of a licence: And the same was read the first time; and ordered to be read a second time on Friday 14th April and to be printed [Bill 101].
6Child Support, Pensions and Social Security Bill,—The House, according to Order, proceeded to consider the Child Support, Pensions and Social Security Bill, as amended in the Standing Committee.
 
        Ordered, That the Child Support, Pensions and Social Security Bill, as amended, be considered in the following order, namely: New Clauses relating to Part I, amendments relating to Clause 1, Schedule 1, Clauses 2 to 6, Schedule 2, Clauses 7 to 15, Clauses 75 and 76, Schedule 8, Clauses 16 to 26, Schedule 3, Clauses 27 to 29, New Clauses relating to Part III, amendments relating to Clauses 57 to 62, Schedule 6, Clause 63, Schedule 7, Clauses 64 to 68, New Clauses relating to Part IV, amendments relating to Clauses 69 to 74, New Clauses relating to Chapter I of Part II, amendments relating to Clauses 30 and 31, Schedule 4, Clauses 32 to 39, New Clauses relating to Chapter II of Part II, amendments relating to Clauses 40 to 51, Schedule 5, New Clauses relating to Chapter III of Part II, amendments relating to Clauses 52 to 56, Remaining New Clauses, amendments relating to Clauses 77 and 78, Schedule 9, Clauses 79 and 80, New Schedules.—(Mr Jeff Rooker.)
 
        A Clause (Priority collection and enforcement of child support maintenance)—(Mr Eric Pickles)—brought up and read the first time.
 
        Question proposed, That the Clause be read a second time:—Clause, by leave, withdrawn.
 
        Another Clause (Child Support Agency: quality standard guarantee)—(Mr Eric Pickles)—brought up and read the first time.
 
        Question proposed, That the Clause be read a second time:—Clause, by leave, withdrawn.
 
        Amendment (No. 87) proposed to the Bill, in page 83, line 7, at the beginning to insert the words—
 
        '( ) Where the amount of child support maintenance calculated exceeds such sum as may be prescribed ('the maximum sum'), the maximum sum shall be payable by the non-resident parent.'.—(Mr Eric Pickles.)
 
        Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:—Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.
 
        Another Amendment (No. 88) proposed to the Bill, in page 83, line 7, at the beginning to insert the words—
 
        '"( )(a) Following the calculation of the amount payable by the non-resident parent the Secretary of State shall determine the net weekly income of the parent with care in like manner to the determination of the net weekly income of the non-resident parent.
 
        (b) Where the net weekly income of the parent with care exceeds the net weekly income of the non-resident parent the Secretary of State shall in such manner as may be prescribed reduce the amount of child support maintenance payable by the non-resident parent.
 
        (c) Where the non-resident parent is liable to pay child support maintenance to more than one person the provisions of (a) shall apply to each parent with care and the reductions in the amount payable provided for by (b) shall apply to the amounts payable to each of those parents with care in receipt of a net weekly income greater than that of the non-resident parent.".'.—(Mr Eric Pickles.)
 
        Question put, That the Amendment be made.
 
        The House divided.
 
          Tellers for the Ayes, Mrs Eleanor Laing, Mr Keith Simpson: 165.
 
          Tellers for the Noes, Mr Mike Hall, Mrs Anne McGuire: 271.
 
        Another Amendment (No. 2) proposed to the Bill, in page 83, line 35, to leave out sub-paragraph 4(1) and insert the words—
 
        '4.—(1) Except in a case falling within sub-paragraph (2), a flat rate of £5 is payable if the nil rate does not apply and the non-resident parent's net weekly income is £100 or less', instead thereof.—(Steve Webb.)
 
        Question put, That the Amendment be made.
 
        The House divided.
 
          Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Andrew Stunell, Sir Robert Smith: 33.
 
          Tellers for the Noes, Mr Mike Hall, Mrs Anne McGuire: 269.
 
        Amendment (No. 48) made to the Bill.
 
        Another Amendment (No. 1) proposed to the Bill, in page 3, line 1, to leave out Clause 2.—(Mr Andrew George.)
 
        Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:—Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.
 
        Another Amendment (No. 36) made to the Bill.
 
        Another Amendment (No. 79) proposed to the Bill, in page 88, line 16, to leave out subsection (4) and to insert the words—
 
        '(4) For the purposes of sub-paragraph (3)(b)—
 
        (a) "illness" may have such meaning as may be prescribed; and
 
        (b) "disability" shall have the same meaning as in section 1(1) of the Disability Discrimination Act 1995; and
 
        (c) the question whether an illness or disability is long-term shall be determined in accordance with regulations made by the Secretary of State.', instead thereof.—(Mr Andrew George.)
 
        Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:—Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.
 
        Other Amendments (Nos. 37, 38, 42, 43, 82, 44, 53 to 57 and 39 to 41) made to the Bill.
 
        Another Amendment (No. 81) proposed to the Bill, in page 20, line 7, at the end to insert the words—
 
        '(9A) Where the parent with care has complied with obligations imposed by section 6 of the 1991 Act, the Secretary of State shall be legally responsible for the confidentiality of information relating to the parent with care.'.—(Mr Andrew George.)
 
        Question proposed, That the Amendment be made:—Amendment, by leave, withdrawn.
 
        Other Amendments (Nos. 49 to 52) made to the Bill.
 
        Another Clause (Extension of invalid care allowance for bereaved carers)—(Mr Paul Burstow)—brought up and read the first time.
 
        Question proposed, That the Clause be read a second time:—Clause, by leave, withdrawn.
 
        Another Clause (Manner of payment of benefit not restricted to automated credit transfer)—(Steve Webb)—brought up and read the first time.
 
        Question proposed, That the Clause be read a second time;
 
        And it being Ten o'clock, the Debate stood adjourned.
7Business of the House,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 15 (Exempted business), That, at this day's sitting, the Child Support, Pensions and Social Security Bill may be proceeded with, though opposed, until any hour—(Mr Kevin Hughes):—It was agreed to.
8Child Support, Pensions and Social Security Bill,—The House again proceeded to consider the Child Support, Pensions and Social Security Bill, as amended in the Standing Committee.
 
        Question again proposed, That the Clause (No. 26) be read a second time:—Clause, be leave, withdrawn.
 
        Other Amendments (Nos. 26, 27, 15 to 25, 13 and 14) made to the Bill.
 
        Another Amendment (No. 78) proposed to the Bill, in page 68, line 5, at the end to insert the words—
 
        '(2) Section 175 of the Social Security Contributions and Benefits Act 1992 shall be amended in accordance with Schedule (Housing Benefit (General) Amendment Regulations 1996).'.—(Mr Paul Burstow.)
 
        Question put, That the Amendment be made.
 
        The House divided.
 
          Tellers for the Ayes, Mr Don Foster, Mr Andrew George: 34.
 
          Tellers for the Noes, Jim Dowd, Mr Robert Ainsworth: 260.
 
        Ordered, That further consideration of the Bill be now adjourned.—(Mr Greg Pope.)
 
        Bill to be further considered to-morrow.
9Terms and Conditions of Employment (Scotland),—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Public Finance and Accountability (Scotland) Act 2000 (Transfer of NAO Staff etc.) Order 2000, which was laid before this House on 3rd March, be approved—(Mr Greg Pope):—It was agreed to.
10International Immunities and Privileges,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Organisation for Joint Armament Cooperation (Immunities and Privileges) Order 2000, which was laid before this House on 7th March, be approved—(Mr Greg Pope):—It was agreed to.
11Audit Commission,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the Code of Audit Practice for Local Authorities and the National Health Service in England and Wales, which was laid before this House on 9th March, be approved—(Mr Greg Pope):—It was agreed to.
12Environmental Protection,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the draft Air Quality (England) Regulations 2000, which were laid before this House on 9th March, be approved—(Mr Greg Pope):—It was agreed to.
13Local Government Finance,—A Motion was made, and the Question being put forthwith, pursuant to Standing Order No. 118 (Standing Committees on Delegated Legislation), That the Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 60) on 1999-2000 Special Grant for unaccompanied asylum-seeking children (House of Commons Paper No. 330), which was laid before this House on 13th March, be approved—(Mr Greg Pope):—It was agreed to.
14Public Petitions,—Public Petitions from—
 
        (1) Pamela M. Combes against proposals for housing development in Hampshire,
 
        (2) farmers in the Midlands in support of the viable production of British food and maintenance of the countryside, and
 
        (3) residents of Brill in Buckinghamshire against the installation of antennae in densely populated areas of Brill
 
    were presented and read; and ordered to lie upon the Table and to be printed.
15Adjournment,—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That this House do now adjourn—(Mr Greg Pope);
Thursday 30th March 2000
 
        And the Question being put;
 
        Resolved, That this House do now adjourn.
 
        And accordingly the House, having continued to sit till eight minutes past Twelve o'clock on Thursday morning, adjourned till this day.
[Adjourned at 12.08 a.m.
Betty Boothroyd
Speaker        

Madam Speaker will take the Chair at half-past Eleven o'clock.

APPENDIX I
Papers presented or laid upon the Table:
Papers subject to Negative Resolution:
1Disabled Persons,—Disability Rights Commission (Time Limits) Regulations 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 879), dated 27th March 2000 [by Act] [Mr Secretary Blunkett].
2Income Tax,—(1) Corporation Tax (Instalment Payments) (Amendment) Regulations 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 892), and
 
        (2) Taxes (Interest Rate) (Amendment) Regulations 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 893),
 
    dated 29th March 2000 [by Act] [Dawn Primarolo].
Other Papers:
3Air Force (Constitution),—Queen's Regulations for the Royal Air Force (Fifth Edition) [by Act] [Mr Secretary Hoon].
4Government Annuities,—Account of Government Annuities and Insurances for 1999 [by Act] [Miss Melanie Johnson].
5Public Accounts,—Treasury Minutes on the Fifth to Seventh Reports from the Committee of Public Accounts, Session 1999-2000 [by Command] [Cm. 4688] [Mr Stephen Timms].
6Teaching and Higher Education,—Report of the Scottish Fee Support Review [by Act] [Mr Secretary Blunkett].
7Treaty Series (No. 31, 2000),—Exchange of Notes, done at Tashkent on 25th November 1998 and 19th January 1999, between the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Government of the Republic of Uzbekistan terminating the Treaty on Merchant Navigation between the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, done at London on 3rd April 1968, the Protocol to the Treaty, done at Moscow on 1st March 1974, and the Additional Protocol, done at Moscow on 30th December 1986 [by Command] [Cm. 4652] [Mr Secretary Cook].
8Treaty Series (No. 32, 2000),—Exchange of Notes, done at London on 1st and 8th December 1997, amending the Headquarters Agreement between the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the International Oil Pollution Compensation Fund [by Command] [Cm. 4653] [Mr Secretary Cook].
9Treaty Series (No. 33, 2000),—Exchange of Notes, done at London on 11th and 28th July 1997, amending the Headquarters Agreement between the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and the European Centre for Medium-Range Weather Forecasts [by Command] [Cm. 4654] [Mr Secretary Cook].
10Treaty Series (No. 34, 2000),—Exchange of Notes, done at Washington on 18th September 1997 and 7th October 1997, amending the Headquarters Agreement between the Government of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and INTELSAT [by Command] [Cm. 4655] [Mr Secretary Cook].
11Treaty Series (No. 88, 1999),—Fourth Supplementary List of Ratifications, Accessions, Withdrawals, Etc., for 1999 [by Command] [Cm. 4677] [Mr Secretary Cook].
APPENDIX II
Standing Committees
1Warm Homes and Energy Conservation Bill:
 
        (1) The Speaker has allocated the Bill to Standing Committee C, and has appointed Mr Roger Gale Chairman; and
 
        (2) The Committee of Selection has nominated nineteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mr David Amess, Mr Tony Baldry, Mr Tom Brake, Mr Simon Burns, Mr Roger Casale, Sir Sydney Chapman, Mr David Chaytor, Mr David Drew, Mrs Linda Gilroy, Mr Damian Green, Mr Kelvin Hopkins, Ms Jenny Jones, Mr Chris Mullin, Mr Terry Rooney, Mr Alan Simpson, Mr Andrew Stunell, Mr David Taylor, Joan Walley and Mr Mike Wood.
2Criminal Justice and Courts Services Bill:
 
        (1) The Speaker has allocated the Bill to Standing Committee G, and has appointed Mr John Maxton and Sir David Madel Chairmen; and
 
        (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated twenty Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mr David Amess, Mr Tony Baldry, Jackie Ballard, Mr Paul Boateng, Mr John Burnett, Mr John Cryer, Mr Hilton Dawson, Mr Mike Hall, Mr Nick Hawkins, Mrs Joan Humble, Jane Kennedy, Mr David Lidington, Mr Peter Luff, Mr Tony McWalter, Laura Moffatt, Dr Doug Naysmith, Bridget Prentice, Mr Marsha Singh, Angela Smith and Dr George Turner.
3Draft Pneumoconiosis etc. (Workers' Compensation) (Payment of Claims) (Amendment) Regulations 2000:
 
        (1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Regulations to the Second Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr Eric Illsley Chairman; and
 
        (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mr Peter Atkinson, Mr Kevin Barron, Mr Clive Betts, Dr Peter Brand, Mr Ronnie Campbell, Ann Clwyd, Ms Beverley Hughes, Ms Fiona Jones, Mr Terry Lewis, Mr Tim Loughton, Mr Mark Oaten, Mr Laurence Robertson, Mr Richard Shepherd, Mr Alan Simpson, Mr Dennis Skinner and Mr Phil Woolas.
4Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 59) on Metropolitan Railway Passenger Services Grant 2000-2001 (House of Commons Paper No. 361):
 
        (1) The Speaker has allocated the Report to the Third Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr Nicholas Winterton Chairman; and
 
        (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mr Robert Ainsworth, Mr Richard Allan, Mr Peter Atkinson, Mr Tom Brake, Mr Tony Colman, Mr Jeremy Corbyn, Mr Neil Gerrard, Ms Harriet Harman, Mr Keith Hill, Mr John McDonnell, Mr Stephen Pound, Joan Ruddock, Mr Robert Syms, Mr Michael Trend, Mr Peter Viggers and Mr Phil Woolas.
5Draft Access to Justice Act 1999 (Destination of Appeals) Order 2000:
 
        (1) The Speaker has allocated the draft Order to the Fourth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr John Butterfill Chairman; and
 
        (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mr Peter Atkinson, Jackie Ballard, Mr Nigel Beard, Ms Karen Buck, Mr Paul Clark, Mr Frank Field, Mrs Eileen Gordon, Mr Win Griffiths, Mr Nick Hawkins, Mr Simon Hughes, Mr Andrew Hunter, Glenda Jackson, Mr David Lock, Mrs Anne McGuire, Mr Stephen O'Brien and Dr Phyllis Starkey.
6Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 57) on the Promoting Independence: Prevention Grant for 2000/2001 (House of Commons Paper No. 338), the Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 56) on the Promoting Independence: Partnership Grant for 2000/2001 (House of Commons Paper No. 337), and the Local Government Finance (England) Special Grant Report (No. 58) on the Promoting Independence: Carers Grant for 2000/2001 (House of Commons Paper No. 339):
 
        (1) The Speaker has allocated the Special Grant Reports to the Fifth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr Jonathan Sayeed Chairman; and
 
        (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mr Tony Baldry, Mr Paul Burstow, Mr Iain Coleman, Maria Eagle, Mr Clive Efford, Mrs Louise Ellman, Mr Andrew George, Mr Patrick Hall, Mr Philip Hammond, Mr John Hutton, Mr David Jamieson, Helen Jones, Dr Julian Lewis, Mr James Plaskitt, Ms Debra Shipley and Mr Keith Simpson.
7Competition Act 1998 (Director's Rules) Order 2000 (S.I., 2000, No. 293):
 
        (1) The Speaker has allocated the Order to the Sixth Standing Committee on Delegated Legislation, and has appointed Mr Jonathan Sayeed Chairman; and
 
        (2) the Committee of Selection has nominated sixteen Members to serve on the Committee, viz.: Mr Simon Burns, Dr Vincent Cable, Mrs Anne Campbell, Dr David Clark, Mr Brian Cotter, Mr Denzil Davies, Mr David Faber, Mr Michael Foster, Mr Nick Gibb, Dr Kim Howells, Mrs Eleanor Laing, Mr Greg Pope, Sir Raymond Powell, Mr Mohammad Sarwar, Mr Brian White and Mr Mike Wood.
European Standing Committees
8The Speaker has appointed Mr John McWilliam Chairman of European Standing Committee A in respect of European Union Document No. 13048/99 on the common organisation of the market in bananas.
APPENDIX III
Reports from Select Committees
1Agriculture,—Memoranda laid before the Agriculture Committee [Government Proposals for Organophosphate Sheep Dips; Implications for UK Agriculture and EU Agricultural Policy of Trade Liberalisation and the WTO Round; Rural Development Regulation] [Mr David Curry].
2Defence,—Fifth Report from the Defence Committee [Defence Geographic and Imagery Intelligence Agency] with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 100] [Mr Bruce George].
3Education and Employment,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Education Sub-Committee of the Education and Employment Committee [Early Years Education]; to be printed [No. 386-i] [Valerie Davey].
4Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs,—(1) Second Special Report from the Environment, Transport and Regional Affairs Committee [Government Response to the First Report from the Committee: Potential Risk of Fire Spread in Buildings via External Cladding Systems]; to be printed [No. 389];
 
        (2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Proposed Urban White Paper]; to be printed [No. 185-v] [Mr Andrew F. Bennett]; and
 
        (3) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Transport Sub-Committee of the Committee [The Road Haulage Industry]; to be printed [No. 296-iv] [Mrs Gwyneth Dunwoody].
5Northern Ireland Affairs,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Northern Ireland Affairs Committee [Public Expenditure—Inward Investment in Northern Ireland]; to be printed [No. 198-iv] [Mr Peter Brooke].
6Procedure,—First Special Report from the Procedure Committee [Government Response to the Sixth Report of Session 1998-99: Procedure for Debate on the Government's Expenditure Plans]; to be printed [No. 388] [Mr Nicholas Winterton].
7Public Accounts,—(1) Twelfth Report from the Committee of Public Accounts [The PFI Contract for the new Dartford and Gravesham Hospital]; to be printed with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 131]; and
 
        (2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [Inpatient Admissions and Bed Management in NHS Acute Hospitals]; to be printed [No. 391-i]
 
    [Mr David Davis].
8Public Administration,—(1) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Select Committee on Public Administration [Public Participation]; to be printed [No. 79-ix]; and
 
        (2) further Memorandum laid before the Committee [Making Government Work: Civil Service Reform]; to be printed [No. 238-i]
 
    [Mr Brian White].
9Science and Technology,—(1) Fifth Report from the Science and Technology Committee [The Government's Expenditure on Research and Development: Forward Look 1999], together with Appendices to the Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee; to be printed, with the Minutes of Proceedings of the Committee relating to the Report [No. 196]; and
 
        (2) Memoranda laid before the Committee [The Government's Expenditure on Research and Development: Forward Look 1999]
 
    [Dr Michael Clark].
10Scottish Affairs,—(1) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Scottish Affairs Committee [Poverty in Scotland]; to be printed [No. 59-x]; and
 
        (2) Minutes of Evidence taken before the Committee [The Work of the Scotland Office since Devolution]; to be printed [No. 390-i]
 
    [Mr David Marshall].
11Social Security,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Social Security Committee [Housing Benefit]; to be printed [No. 385-i] [Mr Archy Kirkwood].
12Trade and Industry,—Minutes of Evidence taken before the Trade and Industry Committee [BMW, Rover and Longbridge]; to be printed [Nos. 383-ii and -iii] [Mr Martin O'Neill].


Supplement to the Votes and Proceedings
Wednesday 29th March 2000
Minutes of Proceedings of the Sitting in Westminster Hall
[pursuant to the Order of 24th May 1999]

The House met at half-past Nine o'clock.
PRAYERS.
1Adjournment,—A Motion was made, and the Question being proposed, That the sitting be now adjourned—(Mr David Clelland);
 
        And it being Two o'clock, the sitting was adjourned without Question put, till to-morrow.
[Adjourned at 2.00 p.m.
Sir Alan Haselhurst
Deputy Speaker        



 
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